Retrieving high level brake light wiring

David Broughton
David Broughton Forum Participant Posts: 3
edited August 2021 in Caravans #1

I recently changed my high level brake light on my auto sleeper Kensington touring caravan . I bought an exact replacement from auto sleepers .The unit came with two attached wires with spade connectors attached. Unscrewing the old unit was straight forward , but when pulling the wiring to access the old connection the wires became detached and dissapeared behind the wall of the caravan.

I have bought a strobe light that connects to my phone , but cannot find the elusive wires to connect new unit.

Has anyone any suggestions as to a remedy for my situation.

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  • Whittakerr
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    edited August 2021 #2

    I'm sure you mean a scope light (as in endoscope) and not strobe light. If thats the case and you cant see the wires it seems you have a problem.

    Whats the construction of the wall between the outer and inner skins? is it full of insulation?

    How far from the opening can you see using the scope?

    All may not be lost, i've fished out many cables from inaccessible places using all sorts of implements. wire coat hangers straightened out with a hook formed on one end, plastic fishtapes, other stiff wires etc. it just takes time and patience.

  • KjellNN
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    edited August 2021 #3

    If all else fails..........What is on the inside of the vehicle at that point?

     If a cupboard it could be possible to open up the wall to find the wires.

    Otherwise, if you can find the wires, or a connection  to them,  at floor level, could you run a new cable up inside the vehicle?  Some slim ducting would conceal it.

     

  • rjb
    rjb Forum Participant Posts: 118
    edited August 2021 #4

    Try taking a rear light cluster out

  • ADP1963
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    edited August 2021 #5

    It may be worth attaching a strong magnet to a piece of string if the aperture is big enough to take a small magnet. I have used this trick and been successful a few times....worth a try.  Good Luck.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited August 2021 #6

    but copper isn't magnetic 😉😉

  • Kasspa
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    edited August 2021 #7

    Spade connectors should be though.....

  • EmilysDad
    EmilysDad Forum Participant Posts: 8,973
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    edited August 2021 #8

    none of mine are .... I've just been & checked! 😉😊

  • ADP1963
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    edited August 2021 #9

    I agree if they are copper no point in doing it........but similar incidents have sometimes worked for me. I have a couple of Magnets I keep that are strong I think they were out of Loud Speakers.

  • David Broughton
    David Broughton Forum Participant Posts: 3
    edited August 2021 #10

    Thank you for your replies.I have tried the magnet and wire hook methods to no avail,spent about two hours up a step ladder fishing about .I have also  taken light clusters off to see if the wires I am looking for maybe attached ,but again no luck.

    I also took off a bathroom mirror against the bulkhead to see whether it opened up to the back wall ,again no just a full fixed inside wall.

    The only thing I can try now is to perhaps send a new double wire down using a plumb weight and connecting up to one of the rear lights.

    Again thank you for suggestions,

    David

  • Amesford
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    edited August 2021 #11

    You can purchase for around a tenner a set of  flexible electrician rods which screw together and come with different screw in ends and are used to pull wires through awkward places this may be useful in retrieving or replacing your light cable

  • jennyc
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    edited August 2021 #12

    We’ve used our phone camera on many occasions, to gain an insight into otherwise hidden spaces, model numbers, connections and more.

    Once located, you should be able to hook onto the wires with one of these: 

    SHINE Magnetic Pick Up Tool 600MM Claw Pick Up Tool Lifting Grab Grabber

    They are cheap, readily available and once you have one, you’ll find that it enjoys more use over the years, than you ever planned.

  • Navigateur
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    edited August 2021 #13

    With all the time and effort already expended I'd go for running new wires before it becomes an MOT fail.   Not sure what to do about the original wires which may at some time short out and blow fuses.

  • Whittakerr
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    edited August 2021 #14

    Since when did caravans require an MOT!

  • David Broughton
    David Broughton Forum Participant Posts: 3
    edited August 2021 #15

    Thank you for all your reply’s .Have now tried everything including trying to drop a new cable down inside, but this was also unsuccessful as there doesn’t seem to be enough room for them to drop right down.I think all wiring must have been in place before attaching last rear panel thus sandwiching any cables.What is worrying me most is not so much the light not working but the wires shorting out on each other blowing a fuse.

    Have tried contacting Auto Sleepers and to be fair I missed their call the first time ,but after giving them extra mobile numbers ,they have not got back in touch.

    Again thanks for your help.