Site facilities post 19th July

Give em chance, CnC. The details were only given by the PM yesterday.

See the Visitors thread - an update is on the way.

They still had to wait for the details to be announced before any plans could be finalised. Why not email the club and ask for details? The front page tells us to check the website again soon.👍

You are supposed to be on holiday, why would shaving be a holiday activity?

You'll be telling us you have more than a squaddie wash next  ie a quick wipe with a baby wipe 

I was surprised to read the advice given on the Delta variant. There are so many areas involved, mainly in the North West, that must affect both club sites and cl's

Don’t think the club can answer that question about conflict between Maskers and non-maskers! Only we members can answer that one. The club could ‘insist’ that masks are to be worn in certain places like office/toilet blocks/ info rooms etc. but who in the right mind would want to police that. The conflict will be Boris made in my opinion as confusion reigns amongst some folk.

Rather than ‘Freedom Day’ some are calling it ‘Free for All Day’ as some will just go silly and not heed what will now appear to be advice only!

I think there will be a lot of outbreaks and this could shut down sites if people throw caution to the wind.

This is so true WN, this section of our society you refer to have been enjoying their new found freedom in the knowledge that helpful behaviours from the rest of us have been underpinned by legislation. No longer!

Yes although we haven't done much, all risk assessed before, the Royal we 😉, have been happy to mix a bit more than we had been because of masks etc being worn. Not always correctly and if I might make a sweeping statement incorrect mask wearing, ie nose uncovered has mainly been an older male thing! But there have been older women occasionally.

Example whilst I waiting in the car showroom/service area today. Staff only not wearing masks unless in people's vehicles or close, by today's standards,, conversations. All women and all men with one exception properly masked. The exception finished his conversation and made his way to the exit, with his female companion on crutches, yanking his mask down to under his chin before reaching the door and opening that with hand that had touched the outside of his mask 😷.  I certainly wouldn't make any conversation about it with him as I felt intimidated anyway, from a considerable distance.

Listening to the female head of London Transport Police on woman's hour when asked about such situations, she suggested striking up a conversation with the person if you felt comfortable doing so. When challenged by Emna Barnett - presenter for wording etc, nothing helpful. When Emma Barnett brought up she had had instances, as had her friends, with porn being watched they had got out of the carriage so as to feel less intimidated. She said she did once ask a man would he mind er um  etc, as she said in the typical British fashion, because she didn't know how to word her request, this from a very well educated woman not frightened to hold folk to account in her job! She too left the carriage at the next stop. This latter matter being brought up because the transport police want everyone to report inappropriate looking, leering or touching whether you're the victim or not, the original reason for the article. An interesting listen radio4 Tuesday 13th. 

BoJo's new freedom for all will certainly curtail us, but once again we'll risk assess for ourselves because I fear the selfish ones don't give a fig. Sadly I fear we won't be long before being confined again, if he dares and folk cooperate. We are soooo close to 🤞the finishing post with jabs etc it seems total madness but I'm not qualified to comment on the science 🤐

Edit, breaking news just flashed up as I posted, Mallorca etc amber list from Monday. Why not instantly????

Fisherman, our GP surgery has a sign on the door and the recorded telephone message before you can even begin to queue to talk to someone, tells you not to enter if you suspect you have COVID, as does our pharmacy. The only new bit to me on your GP sign is about holiday makers contacting their own medical centre.

I'm afraid if those covid aware members expect every other member to be responsible for their own personal hygiene/safety precautions when on site & using the showers/toilets , you will be taking extreme risks with you own health.

Covid idiots have been roving the club sites since they first opened, nothing will change after 19 July no matter how the club trys to advise us of the still constant risk of infection spreading.

We are staying well clear of club sites & only using cls & C&CC cs sites.

I posted earlier this year of the total disregard of many members using the precautions laid out by the wardens at the Carsington waters site when using the toilet facilities , many members didn't give a flying fig about using the wrist band control method... for their own safety... never mind others. 

It will not be in the near future