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eurortraveller
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edited July 2021 in UK Campsites & Touring #1

Cornwall Live ran this picture today with a story of a motorhome which was stuck for five hours. The driver unwisely took it down to Hemmick beach, managed to turn with the help of other visitors who rolled rocks and boulders out of the way, but then couldn’t get the vehicle back up the steep hill. So stuck and unable to get out either side because the lane is too narrow. Other motorhomers please note there are places down here which shouldn’t be attempted.

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  • JVB66
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    edited July 2021 #2

    Some roads where we live can catch out the incomerscool

  • SeasideBill
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    edited July 2021 #3

    Lovely spot, one of my favourites, but definitely not for a large vehicle. Plenty of that going on in Cornwall at the moment. I live alongside a high banked single track lane A few days ago a lady managed to turn her car over rather than give way to an oncoming vehicle. She drove so far up the bank that the car rolled onto its side and, because it’s a steep hill, then onto its roof. She suffered cuts & bruises, shock and a ruined holiday. Sat Nav took her down the steep narrow lane when there is a perfectly good wide road running almost parallel!

  • SeasideBill
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    edited July 2021 #4

    Also, good point about not being able to get uphill. Most fear these lanes because they’re narrow. However, in the same way as Motorhomes are easily immobilised by a bit of damp grass, the same is true of a steep gradient. Weight and small wheels are not a good combination - stop midway and you may not get going again - see it a lot.

  • JVB66
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    edited July 2021 #5

    In our area it is narrow roads/lanes and ditches plus very short site lines on windy roads,

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited July 2021 #6

    I am loving all the cows watching the crazy human behaviour😂

  • Wherenext
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    edited July 2021 #7

    Just shown it to Mrs WN and her first reaction was to mention the cows.😂 Her second was an unprintable description of driver!

  • ABM
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    edited July 2021 #8

    I wonder if I could / should  work out and publicise a Cornish Coastal 500 perhaps  undecidedwink ??

    Well all sorts of folks advise on the wisdom of doing the Scottish NC500 don't we  ?!?

  • cyberyacht
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    edited July 2021 #9

    If there's grass in the middle, don't do it.

  • Bakers2
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    edited July 2021 #10

    Unbelievable 😡🤐 Going to cost a pretty penny to get it out!

    Out of interest does anyone know how it'll be removed?

     

  • peedee
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    edited July 2021 #11

    The story is >here<, it appears it was recovered after 5 hours? Presumably all it needed was a tug uphill. Was it a foreign vehicle, the last one reported stuck in Cornwall was French.

    I always take my tow car to Corwall and Devon.laughing I wouldn't fancy some of the lanes in a large car let alone a campervan or motorhome.

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  • Takethedogalong
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    edited July 2021 #12

    Ruddy idiots springs to mind. We have taken our MH up and down some tight places, but never without knowing the terrain beforehand. You don’t argue with Cornish and Devon lanes, simply because they are usually hedged with Granite, and you can’t push through Granite even if you wanted to. I am guessing that would need an impressive tractor and a well reimbursed farmer to get it unstuck and out to a more suitable road.

    The roads down there on the Roseland are very narrow, we got to Caerhays Beach easily enough, but we were careful in our choice of route. Wouldn’t have attempted Hemmick.

  • SeasideBill
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    edited July 2021 #13

    For the brave you can attempt Hemmick from the Gorran Haven side, but go no further than the NT car park at Penare which is convenient to walk to the beach or Dodman Point. There’s still a narrow lane to contend with, but it does have a few passing places. Approaching Hemmick from Boswinger is madness.

    The NT have a lovely little cottage at Hemmick right on the beach Hemmick - about idyllic a location that you’ll find anywhere. 

  • Navigateur
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    edited July 2021 #14

    A number of years ago when we were getting real snow in winter I encountered a couple stuck in their car at the side of a road. They told me they could not get back to their cottage because of the depth of the snow. Since I was going in that general direction I offered them a lift.

    All went well for some miles biffing through drifts until the Land Rover came to a sudden stop.  I opened my window to see what had happened and the snow was right up higher than the roof. Handy that there was a door in the rear of the vehicle, and the snow shovel was inside.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited July 2021 #15

    We followed a snow plough up Chelker one day in Land Rover. Everyone had to turn around when the snow plough got stuck!😁

  • Navigateur
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    edited July 2021 #16

     Up beyond Kilncadzow the drifts get very deep and a snowplough just can't shift things, so they use a snow blower to cut a slot through. The first one they used was built on a Haflinger and was only just wider than my Series I Land Rover.

    One day I went up the slot to see what progress was being made on the far side and when I turned to go back down there was another Land Rover coming up so I waited, and waited, and waited. No movement.  

    Then one of the blower crew noticed through his binoculars that the other Land Rover was a Series II. Critical difference here was that the body on a Series II is about 3" wider than a Series I. The Haflinger went back down and cut around the stuck Land Rover to free it.  The explanation given by the occupants was that as they saw another Land Rover go up they though they could make it!

  • SeasideBill
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    edited July 2021 #17

    Looking through reviews of local campsites for visitors and came across this comment “Read all the reviews (including the bad one) and off we went, the journey was great the only bit that was iffy was the road to the actual campsite as it is used as a rat run by locals coming and going to Mevagissey.” The reviewer clearly doesn’t understand that in these parts, that lane is all there is - the next best thing to a motorway! A more accurate description would be “used by tourists in the summer blindly following sat nav who can’t drive backwards or have any idea how wide their car/motorhome/caravan is” Some of them need to recognise that meeting oncoming isn’t a prelude to a game of brinkmanship, courtesy and patience are much more appreciated, as is a friendly wave or smile!

    Rant over 

  • harryb
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    edited July 2021 #18

    A caravan site owner told us last year that the influx of new inexperienced caravaners/motorhomers was causing untold problems. This could be one of them. Surely a road sign at the head of the road would have been in place.

  • SeasideBill
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    edited July 2021 #19

    Almost certainly no road sign as the road is nothing out of the ordinary in these parts. Like many Cornish lanes largely single track with plenty of passing spaces and busy enough to make progress very slow in holiday season. 

    I can understand the point about newbies, plenty of them about just now.

  • SeasideBill
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    edited July 2021 #20

    Just to finish this one off…

    The MH pair, Stan & Norrie from Hayling Island have now become minor celebrities here having publicly thanked everyone involved for helping them and apologising to locals for blocking the road for 6 hours. A Green Flag 4x4 eventually got them out. 

    Just to top it all Stan blamed his “Caravan Club GPS” for his predicament! 🤣

  • brue
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    edited July 2021 #21

    I was trying to work out how they could have escaped had the ordeal gone on for too long, I presume some sort of roof exit would have benn planned?

  • dunelm
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    edited July 2021 #22

    According to "Cornwall Live" and Google Maps street view there are clear signs at the top stating that there is no car park at Hemmick  Beach and that the road is unsuitable for wide vehicles.

    If that is so then it is irresponsible as well as being unwise to ignore them, whether a "newbie", someone in a hire van or an experienced motorhomer.

    I cannot understand why, according to another post, the couple have become "minor celebrities" in the area.  They certainly don't fit dictionary definitions of "celebrity".

    Unfortunately, it is another example of the kind of behaviour which annoys and frustrates other people, especially local residents and which sometimes makes them opposed to all motorhomes/motorhomers. 

  • SeasideBill
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    edited July 2021 #23

    Dunelm - “I cannot understand why, according to another post, the couple have become "minor celebrities" in the area. They certainly don't fit dictionary definitions of "celebrity".

    It doesn’t take much these days, notoriety is as good as merit or talent! 🥴

    Apologies, there may be some cross communication - when referring to signage I meant the lane described as a ‘rat run’. The road to Hemmick from either direction will have warning I’m sure.

     

  • dunelm
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    It's rather sad isn't it?

  • brue
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    edited July 2021 #25

    Yes.

    And also they were blocking emergency vehicle access to anyone who may have needed it.

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  • brue
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    Perhaps you missed the word "ordeal"in my post David?

    Narrow lanes are a fact of life all over the uk and require due care and attention.

    Those of us who live with narrow lanes have no desire to look elsewhere, these lanes have been around longer than us, perhaps they frighten some users and confuse others but country driving requires a different set of skills.

    I was glad to hear the people in question finally got out.

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  • dunelm
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    If the aforementioned signs were at the top of the road then the driver was not "unfortunate" if s/he chose to ignore them . As divers we have certain responsibilities, including knowing the size of our vehicles and taking notice of signs. There is nothing of "superiority" about that. Of course, it is possible that in certain circumstances any of us may get stuck in a lane but would you actually choose to  go down a road in such a motorhome if a sign stated that it was "unsuitable for wide vehicles"? For those who would not then it is not a case of "superiority" but common sense and responsibility.

     

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited July 2021 #30

    We have a card in front of our MH, gives vehicle dimensions in both metric and imperial. Surprising how handy it is at times just to check the limits. Regular visitors to D&C are usually aware of just how tight some lanes can get, particularly around approaches to coves and beaches.

    If it’s somewhere we haven’t been before, and it looks a tad dodgy, we apply the off roaders mantra, and one of us will get out and take a look on foot. Prevention is better than cure, no one wants to get stuck if they can help it. Just needs a bit of forethought, and as mentioned, some common sense. 

  • Bakers2
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    edited July 2021 #31

    Our dimensions, imperial and metric, laminated and velcro'd onto the material above the rear view mirror.

    Always been good for those Harry Potter Night Bus moments 😱. As when you look at the gap or height the info refuses to be recalled in the time available.

    Mentioning no names - on the IoW the driver decided we would take the road that was barely wide enough, one of those to deter bigger vehicles. It was plenty wide enough  BUT the overhanging branches weren't trimmed back by the council or other vehicles!!! Got a bit of a dent and needed a new end to the wind-out awning.............