New Electric charge
hi first time been charged for charging a Hybrid car on Caravan and motor home pitch
i understand and freely pay for a charge but thought that electric was in pitch fee?
13amp draw
if I charge my Hybrid I need to turn off the heating and run Water heating on gas
Also this is daily charge
Dont mind if another power outlet but not for paid power
Hybrids cost around £1:30 to charge
Heaters cost 26p per hour
Not about Eco credentials about making money
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Do you have an outside electric point on your caravan as if you have just plug your car into this then no charge but surprised that you have been charged but if you were using another hook up point perhaps that is the reason but not heard of this before.
Perhaps head office can explain or did you ask the site staff re charge.
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No but when I pay on site I pay to use electric at 13 amp
do you use your gas for heating on a EHU
If I charge my car running heating on electric
I dont mind paying but not everyday ?
Need to tell the Warden and ask for Stand alone EHU
ro avoid issue because like diesel petrol I don’t fill up everyday
Fully electric would need stand alone plug
Electric coming and diesel will come to an end
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The charge for recharging EVs/ Hybrids had been around a while.
The details are in the FAQs.
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I understand the situation in question.
The person using the pitch has paid for electricity usage. They then have to reduce the available power in their van when the EV is plugged in and pay extra for the privilege. It doesn't make sense.
Eg in winter you might have to make the choice between heating your van or charging your car. Only a separate paid for charge point would make this situation fair and reasonable.
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iwould you charge your Hibrid every day?.and as noted by others i have spoken to they quite understand that they should be charged for traction power as needed ,and it seems if charged Overnight (when you go to bed) via, as required the LV outside socket ,then there should be no requirement ,to reduce if at all your other power use for the LV
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Most would want to charge a hybrid as they provide economical local driving. They don't need the big charge that full Evs need but the whole point of a hybrid is to get use out of it. Luckily the club charge less for a hybrid charge but it still reduces the already paid for pitch power.
I presume those with electric bikes and other types of transport charge freely within their pitch fee?
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There is a considerable difference between charging an e-bike battery and a hybrid car. Certainly no need to reduce the LV power consumption to cope with it. In fact the demand is so minimal we can comfortably charge two e-bike batteries simultaneously from the onboard invertor without being on EHU.
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The power consumption eats into the available power so anyone charging a vehicle has to reduce other power and pay extra!
What exactly is the club charging for, it's not metered so it's guess work. Some site users are probably using far more with a myriad assortment of power hungry appliances.
We've been here before, when more people run phevs etc more will understand.
I'm not against paying but on a separate power point.
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I can understand despite not owning a PHEV, Brue. It doesn’t need ownership to see the whopping great hole in the club's logic.
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Average domestic electricity rate in the whole of the UK is about 17p per kWh.
Fully charging a 60kWh electric car will cost between £9.00 and £9.90 .
So if it is allowed with no charge, then non Hybrid /electrics car user will have to subsidizing Hybrid /electrics car user, through increased membership fees , to cover the cost of the electricity used by the club,
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The club does not pay domestic rates so calculations cannot be done on that basis.
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Really give yourself a shake and understand the real costs
also Ehu and non electric pitches have a different cost
Woud take 30 hrs to charge an Ev for a pitch that you have paid to use the electric
Then use gas to run the remaining Appliances
really a Diesel Ev issue lol
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The charge for electric on a club site is for normal daily usage. The charging of an EV during the night is using electricity that would not generally being used, especially in the summer months, when no additional heating the van should be required, so is over and above the normal daily usage. I guess the calculated price for electricity for each pitch over the period that the site is open takes this non-use into consideration. This additional cost has to be met somehow, either by increasing all pitch fees or charging those using this service. Surely the latter is the fairest way.
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Ah, Nellie, I think you may have closed that whopping great hole I referred to earlier👍🏻
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No, you have widened the issue.
- Why would someone charge a car overnight? Maybe they need a day time charge so they can go out at night?
- Is it legal to sell electricity in this manner. What is the rating etc.?
- What are the safety issues?
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I should add that to fully charge our ev on site (which we wouldn't attempt) we'd be stuck on the pitch for a very long time, nearly a day, 19-20 hours!
Owners of hybrids don't have quite such a long wait.
Outside temperatures can affect the charge rate too.
Thanks to the OP for bringing this up. I hope the club start installing safe and efficient charge points.
That's all from me.
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This is my educated guess -
- People are likely to charge their cars overnight when they’re asleep. How many folk staying on site go out overnight?
- Yes, it’s legal as it's not being sold by the kw but you pay for the privilege of charging. What rating? It will be exactly the same as the rest of the site supply.
- It is as safe as the person's caravan. The safety features of the van are the reason the car must be charged via the van.
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This is camping and Caravans view and charging
Does the Club have a policy for charging electric or plug-in hybrid cars on Club Site hook-ups?Electric vehicles may be charged on site only by plugging into the camper unit, not directly into the hook up, in order to prevent potential damage to the sites electrical provision. In some circumstances during high demand this may be at the site managers discretion.
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Does C&CC levy a fee, Taff?
Otherwise, the only difference I see is that you may be told you cannot charge a car if other usage is high on site.
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On a meter it would work👍🏻
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What ever the charge for the electricity supplied is, the calculation with the revised charge ,and argument still stands
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Hybrid cars ,in my opinion ,are a technological dead end anyway, They only make sense if used for anything more then cities, and short journeys
Especially used as a tow vehicle. How far would a hybrid vehicle, larger enough to tow most Caravans, pull a caravan on eco power
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