Caravans and motorhomes with offside door

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2021 #62

    Sorry, I misunderstood. In that case the warden should have explained his reasons. He cannot reasonably furnish you with instructions stating you can pitch either way and then immediately countermand them. Are you taking it further?

  • huskydog
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    edited June 2021 #63

    The easy answer is to put a 6m gap between each pitch ,then you could pitch how you like cool

  • mickysf
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    edited June 2021 #64

    It’s 6m between facing sides of caravans/motorhomes and 3m between cars/awnings. 

  • huskydog
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    edited June 2021 #65

    Yes ,I know that , but as I said if you make a6m gap between each pitch then you can pitch how you like. do caravans burn more fiercely than cars ?

  • mickysf
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    edited June 2021 #66

    The rule is not universally understood, hd, but yes, your novel idea would work albeit with a significant reduction of the numbers of pitches on sites to achieve this!

  • HarryTheHymer
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    edited June 2021 #67

    It does seem odd that metal caravan 5.9m from another metal clad caravan = ‘fiery death trap’, but sleeping, living and cooking in a highly inflammable fabric awning 3m from the next pitch is ‘safe’.

  • HarryTheHymer
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    edited June 2021 #68

    I’m confused!
    To 6m or not 6m - that is the question?

     

  • Cornersteady
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    edited June 2021 #69

    This has been discussed before though, something to do with the 'fire loading' and that the fabric on awnings is not actually very flammable at all.

  • SteveL
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    edited June 2021 #70

    We have had two, caravans and now a MH over 16 years. None has been metal clad, with the exception of the cab bit in the MH.

    Perhaps the reason is there is not a lot of burning sustainability in an awning. It is soon consumed and perhaps doesn’t have time to ignite the car on the adjacent pitch.

  • eribaMotters
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    edited June 2021 #71

    For the amount of times I spend on a main site I don't think it is worth the trouble. I'm going to see who on the Eriba forum still has a copy of a letter from C&MC regarding how they can actually pitch the van.

     

    Colin

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2021 #72

    Our caravan is not metal.cladwink

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2021 #73

    It's downloadable from every club site's page on this website. Your 'sin' was being too far away from the peg.

  • mickysf
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    edited June 2021 #74

    And as such not maintaining the fire breaks, possibly!

  • cyberyacht
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    edited June 2021 #75

    When I had the caravan it was always rear in. Since switching to a motorhome, one UK, the other European, I've always pitched to take advantage of any slight slope to aid levelling which means that either van could have had the door on the "wrong" side. Those who are disconcerted by such matters are at liberty to turn their van round. Given my infrequent use of CAMC sites, I seldom have problems.

  • young thomas
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    edited June 2021 #76

    "My best response is to state, truthfully, that top of my wish list when I replaced that van was - British layout with door on the nearside!"

    Gray, i count far more reasons above that when evaluating a new MH. 

    AS CY suggests, it really isnt a problem (you can turn, others can turn, can use sites which allow different pitching, go overseas etc, etc....) compared to woeful storage, uncomfortable beds, poor autonomy from services, lack of proper winterisation etc, all of which might loom large and are not as easy to fix as turning the steering wheel.

    part of the site in the photo, which we used last week, is divided up into small (7-8 van) sections, using hedges, but with large pitches, allowing vans to park nose in, out or sideways.

    as there are no 'rows' of more than a couple of vans, its unlikely that the 'facing door' situation will arise.

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  • Graydjames
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    edited June 2021 #78

    Bolero Boy said

    "Gray, I count far more reasons above that when evaluating a new MH." 

    My list of "must haves" was very long. I actually still have it, It has no less than 75 separate points on it - some of them people will think are ridiculously trivial. 

    The point is though that you need a starting point and that tends to be something very fundamental. For example this might be whether the van is to be low profile or A class or coach built. Or it might be the type of base vehicle. I would suggest perhaps that many would start with one of those priorities. In my case I regarded the fact that it must be a British layout to be so fundamental that I did not even write it down on my list. That was my starting point from which I started to consider options. After that, there were lots of points some much more important than others. 

    What you are really saying is that in your personal opinion it did not matter whether you had a door on the off-side or a door on the near side (or, at any rate, it was down your list of priorities). I respect that, and there must be many like you. But my point was simply that, for me, it was crucial, but that doesn't mean there were lots of other other just as crucial factors as well.

  • chasncath
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    edited June 2021 #79

    On all three sites, it was reception who, noting that we were a 'continental,, changed their pitching spiel to nose in please, with your awning to the right. Much more reasonable than the inflexible attitude that prevailed when this peg malarkey started. As it happens, a uk motorhome has pitched next to us nose in , in the centre of the pitch.

  • young thomas
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    edited June 2021 #80

    Gray, i think i was saying that, as in this thread, having the door 'on the wrong side' is something that is easily resolved, in a caravan or a MH. At its most basic level, the van can be faced the other way.

    whereas, discovering the bed it too short, too narrow or just plain uncomfortable is going to make 3 month plus tours (literally) a right pain.

    we tour extensively abroad and this might reduce the effect of 'the door' but an uncomfortable bed is still uncomfortable whether sleeping in Norwich or Nantes😏

  • SeasideBill
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    edited June 2021 #81

    If you want the best of both worlds I think Wildax produced a PVC with a sliding door on each side - problem solved or you could annoy both neighbours simultaneously!

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  • mickysf
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    edited June 2021 #83

    I know it’s difficult for some to acknowledge or possibly even realise the fact that we are not all the same. For some that PVC with a sliding door will suit them. Opinions are of course welcomed but it’s how one expresses them that counts and two may not be too many for some.

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2021 #85

    Good post, Micky👍🏻

    I don’t think anyone buys a PVC solely because the sliding door needs to be slammed. Indeed, it can be embarrassing at times. 

    As ever, we all need to show some tolerance whether it be towards sliding doors, car doors, people laughing in awnings, TVs a bit loud, babies crying and so on.

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  • mickysf
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    edited June 2021 #87

    I’m not a great lover of emojis but their use can indicate whether humour underpins a statement or not. I guess we could all make better use of them!👍

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  • mickysf
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    edited June 2021 #90

    👍

  • SeasideBill
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    edited June 2021 #91

    Soft closing is offered by some manufacturers. I recall nearly buying a Globecar where the sliding door automatically deals with the last few inches of closure just like the tailgates fitted to some fancy cars. We call it the ‘whizz bang’ rather than sliding door. 😀

    However, soft closure is just technology waiting to go wrong - there’s something quite satisfying about robustly closing the whizz bang in the knowledge that it’s firmly closed.