Random people walking over others' pitches

philboy20
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edited May 2021 in UK Campsites & Touring #1

Is it just me or is anyone else noticing the amount of people who feel its ok to walk behind your caravan or alongside to take a shortcut ie to the water points, there are paths to follow but clearly they feel the need to cut through hedges etc the worst I have seen is at Chester fair oaks this week.

I am sorry to say it but most of the culprits are the motor home owners with there water bottles topping up there water we have a nervous dog who is always tied up and protected by windbreaker or awning but when you step out of your awning and bump in to the motorhome guy next to you nipping through the hedge for water it gets a bit trying and upsetting for the dog, especially when there is a path 30 yards further up clearly for that purpose.

Its so bad at Chester there are numerous gaps in the hedges where people have basically burst through and created new shortcuts  

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  • eurortraveller
    eurortraveller Club Member Posts: 6,829 ✭✭✭
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    edited May 2021 #2

    Sorry it was trying and upsetting for your dog, but looking at the layout plan for that site it would have been better for you to pitch around the perimeter rather than in the centre. 

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited May 2021 #3

    A topic which often comes up on this forum. It was covered here recently at length.  https://www.caravanclub.co.uk/club-together/discussions/sites-touring/uk-sites-touring/why-do-people-walk-across-other-peoples-pitch/  By human nature I expect people will always seek out the shortest route between two points. Sometimes site design is such that it encourages people to take short cuts. If people are actually forcing their way through hedges perhaps you need to highlight it to the wardens?

    David

  • JVB66
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    edited May 2021 #5

    On the site we have just left we were on a hardstand that was separated from a footpath by a grass strip, on the route from the office complex , but the extra two steps to the footpath was two far for some who would (until i moved the car)cut across in front of our c/van over the hardstandundecided

  • EmilysDad
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    edited May 2021 #6

    It seems that's another plus point for a quiet CL .... We've had the whole site to ourselves this week .... 😊

  • mickysf
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    edited May 2021 #7

    No need to be sorry, I just believe that many of these offenders, motorhomers or otherwise, are very new to our pastime and don’t understand the etiquette of us oldies. At the moment some all over our lives don’t understand 2m let alone pitch ownership and what is considered common and what is not. Is the middle of that grass finger shrouded in ‘law’ as out of bounds to all others or it’s use by others just what we consider plain bad manners.

  • Vulcan
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    edited May 2021 #8

    Just another sign of the times I'm afraid, I would find it embarrassing walking so near to someone's outfit. What exactly is it about Rule 3d that members do not understand?  

     

  • staffy 13
    staffy 13 Forum Participant Posts: 3
    edited May 2021 #9

    hi folks must agree each member as payed £200 plus for these pitches so as i see it that pitch belongs to you and nobody else until you leave.

  • JVB66
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    edited May 2021 #10

    I can understand thatcool

  • harryb
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    edited May 2021 #12

    I was at Maragowan (Kilin) last week. Our pitch backed onto the river. Anyone who knows the site will be aware of a wide grass verge along the river behind several pitches. The only way to to access that area was to walk through the vans. Our pitch wasn't to bad but some were more unlucky. The majority of users were dog walkers who thought it a dog walk. It was not but that's another story

    So how does rule 3D cover this. At present everyone on the site I'm on are walking past the front of my van on the roadway. They can be a close as 1 metre. That can be a lot closer than walking across the edge of the pitch. 

    So what defines a pitch. On hard standing is it the very area covered by the surface or does it include the grass apron in between. I would take the grass apron as no mans land.

     

     

     

  • ADP1963
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    edited May 2021 #13

    If people are forcing their way through hedges taking short cuts I would have thought the Wardens would be aware of the situation. Anything done by force usually leaves it's mark.

  • eurortraveller
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    edited May 2021 #14

    There are good reasons to go to the Maragowan site, but privacy is not one of them. It’s an open plan, communal area with shared space for everyone.  If it means cutting between these outfits in this photo to get to the river bank, then that’s how it will happen 

  • Vulcan
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    edited May 2021 #15

    I think Rule 3D should elicit a certain amount of common sense and good manners even from those found wanting.

  • MikeyA
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    edited May 2021 #16

    Quite right, the blame lies with the designers who did not foresee what was likely to happen.

     

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited May 2021 #17

    Crikey, what an unappealing Site☹️ About as grim and unattractive as you could get from that photo.

  • JillwithaJay
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    edited May 2021 #18

    Looks more like a storage unit than a site.  Not for us.

  • MikeyA
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    edited May 2021 #19

    Looks like many Club sites where the vans face each other.

     

     

  • neveramsure
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    edited May 2021 #20

     The view wouldn't be too bad without the vans/motor homes.undecided

  • Cornersteady
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    edited May 2021 #21

    From memory, and I may be wrong, I don't think those are the pitches next to the river? I don't know why ET chose that one (did you take it ET?) as the ones on the website are much better and give a better idea of the site.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited May 2021 #22

    I’ve just realised where it is, and no doubt the location is lovely. Dour weather doesn’t help, but it certainly lacks an appealing layout. Does it flood from River?

  • DEBSC
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    edited May 2021 #23

    We stayed at Moreton in Marsh once, on one side of our pitch a footpath to the facilities block, on the other side of our caravan, a small space and a hedge. One couple decided that just the extra few feet was too far to walk, so they continuously squeezed between our van and the hedge. One day we waited until the female went passed then we just opened the van window. On returning she got half way along then realised she couldn't pass, that's how close the gap was. From then on we lifted the cables up so they couldn't pass. We even experience it occasionally on our static site, once when I was sitting out, I explained to an irate person that we maintain the grass and pay (a lot) for our pitch. The elderly lady in front of us with mobility problems has asked residents if she can cut across their pitches to the bins. Everyone said yes of course she could. People should just be more thoughtful.

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited May 2021 #24

    But those photos have been taken when the site was nowhere near full. It has a different appearance at weekends and bank holidays.

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited May 2021 #25

    I guess it would take an awful lot of rain for the site to flood from the river as it flows into a huge loch.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited May 2021 #26

    it was the best of sites, it was the worst of sites - a tale of two photographs

    (apologies to Charles)

  • Cornersteady
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    edited May 2021 #27

    Not just club sites though, most others larger sites follow the same pattern all over the UK, and indeed on the sites abroad too that I've seen. Probably the best way to get as many outfits in as possible.  Doesn't bother me as it's only a place to stay overnight, not a resort. 

    Anyway more knowledge about club sites from your good self, good to see you take such an interest as a non member and presumably non user. 

  • Navigateur
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    edited May 2021 #28

    Maragowan floods.  The EHU bollards in the affected area are raised on concrete plinths. As well as the adjacent river, a burn flows through the site. Despite its surface area, Loch Tay can rise quite a bit when there is heavy rain - and there can be a lot of rain around there.  That's why there are so many hydro-electric plants in the local area.

    The first photograph is correct. When I stayed there the caravan was positioned to look out across the river, so to see the other row of users I would have had to peer out the frosted window in the washroom.

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  • Cornersteady
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    edited May 2021 #30

    yes I'm sure you're right, although there is another double row of pitches somewhere, away from the river?

  • ABM
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    edited May 2021 #31

     TtDA & Nellie,  please be assured that the Maragowan site can, and does, flood from the River Lochay  !!

    There are two roads of one way traffic from the entrance to the furthest  end and back to the exit, each road having pitches on both sides, as you thought Corners.

      Should you not be too appreciative of the site, then you could always use the unstaffed associated site about a mile or so towards Aberfeldy but using that one might just mean you get bombarded by bolshie squirrels because it is set amongst oodles of trees yell