Toilet filling

free2419
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edited April 2021 in Caravans #1

Having problems filling holding tank with water in my corona club seems to be blocked any solutions please 

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  • JVB66
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    edited April 2021 #2

    A bit more info may help with a solution what holding tank?

  • KjellNN
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    edited April 2021 #3

    Presumably the flush tank?

    free2419.......generally the removable cassette tank is called the "holding tank", but pretty sure you are talking about filling the flush tank?

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2021 #4

    And there are different types of flush tanks. Some incorporated in the body of the toilet with integrated filling tubes and some with external filling points. 

  • SteveL
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    edited April 2021 #5

    If it’s an exterior filling point, it is difficult to envisage what would be blocking it. If it’s the older hand pump type flush, rather than the electric pump, all that unit can be removed and gives you good access inside the tank to see what is going on. I had to replace one on our old Abbey when it broke. You will need some sealer when you replace it though. Sorry no idea about the electric variety, as the one on our Bailey was still working when we sold it.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2021 #6

    If your toilet is like ours, Free, the filler always holds water giving the appearance of being full (pic4) but it will still allow you to pour more in. The glass level indicator tube can be seen in pic1.

  • free2419
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    edited April 2021 #7

    Thank you all for your reply I will try again 

  • Mr H
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    edited April 2021 #8

    Could anyone help with the amount of toilet fluid you need? The manufacturer of the fluid says 50ml/ litre for the flush and 65ml/ litre for the lower tank. What I do not know is how much each tank holds. I cannot drain the flush tank without continually flushing as there is no drain pipe. Also I do not know how much water to add to the lower tank initially. My reason for asking is because I am trying out "green" fluids whereas previously I have used blue capsules and rather hit and miss with the pink. I am trying to make up a measure "bottle" for each as my waste tank does not have a measuring cap. My caravan is a Lunar Clubman CK. Hope you can help me get to the bottom of this? Oops

  • ABM
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    edited April 2021 #9

    embarassed CHEEKY  !! wink

  • Mr H
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    edited April 2021 #10

    Have checked the caravans manual but it just says " The amount of fluid required varies with the Tank size" but no mention of the capacity of each type. What a bummer!

  • ABM
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    edited April 2021 #11

    I think you might get the size of tanks from the Website of the manufacturer {of the toilet }

     Mr Google should be of assistance, he is usually sealed

  • SteveL
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    edited April 2021 #12

    That seems a lot of fluid. I think our cassette is at least 15 litres capacity. Therefore on your figures you would require almost a litre of green a fill. I just use a Lidl bio pod in ours, with about half a litre of water to dissolve it. Although I empty the tank before it’s full, otherwise I find it a bit heavy. When we used it, I just used to put a splash of pink in. It’s only a deodoriser.

  • eribaMotters
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    edited April 2021 #13

    I now tend to mix up flush water in a 2L water bottle and pour this into the flush tank. When you are on a site for just a few days this works well. If on a site for a week or two the system still works and you would be able to get the exact capacity of your flush tank by how many bottles you put in. 

    The bottle is also good for draining the flush water down into when travelling as it's best not to have a full tank when on the road.

     

    Colin

  • Mr H
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    edited April 2021 #14

    I too think the figures are wrong. Firstly I have now ascertained the the flush tank is 7 litres total and the Cassette 19 litres. I have been told by the green fluid supplier that the flush tank should have 50 ml per Litre thus 7x50ml =350ml and the cassette 65ml which gives 19x 65ml = 1235.

    So the total additive needed for each full load is 1585ml or 1.58 litres. So is this green additive watered down as I have never used that much when using Pink and Blue? Beginning to think I will be saving the planet on my own!!

     

  • SteveL
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    edited April 2021 #15

    Should there be a decimal point in the suppliers figures.  6.5ml would mean using  124ml a load, which would seem a more likely figure. Using 1235ml means you have already used 7% of the tanks capacity before you start. Just checked the Aldi blue I still have left and it says 100ml to 15 litres. I have not used the green of any make.

  • Mr H
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    edited April 2021 #16

    Problem solved The fluid supplier was talking out of his cassette. The real instructions are as follows:- Top tank add 50ml of additive and fill the rest with water. The cassette add 2 litres of water then 125ml to every 20 litres of water in total. So my cassette holds 19 Litres so I would need about 120ml of additive. Total 170ml maximum.

    Hope that helps anyone else who might consider changing and thanks for your responses.

  • cyberyacht
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    edited April 2021 #17

    You've still used 10% of your cassette capacity before you even start. With Lidl bio pods, I just chuck one in and supply any liquid myself, if you see what I mean. With two of us using it all the time, it will just about last four days but, like others, I empty on Day 3 as it's a bit lighter to cart about.

    OH likes to give a squirt from a diluted spray bottle of pink into the bowl from time to time. Cheap as chips and environmentally friendly and you don't end up looking like Mel Gibson in a certain film.

  • Bakers2
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    edited April 2021 #18

    We used the cheapest bio pods we could buy. One in the holding tank, and a little water, not much. Then used as necessary, emptied before it got too full and thus heavy. Did use the organic ones too, a cupful. To be honest found the biopods much easier and better. Didn't have a flush tank, but lots of folk say a lot of black bits from the pink stuff.

  • eribaMotters
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    edited April 2021 #19

    I save on two bottles and go for the all in one liquid, so just one bottle.

    I use Elsan Green Organic liquid. I tried the Kampa but found a limescale type sediment settled in the bottle over winter and did not like the idea of this in the caravan system.

    I dose as instructions in the holding tank and a good glug in the flush so I can see it is green and you get a smell from it.

    I empty before it is full as it is obviously lighter. Even in 35c French summer temps I have found 4 to 5 days and no issues.

     

    Colin

  • KjellNN
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    edited April 2021 #20

    We also use the Lidl Bio washing capsules in the lower tank.  Chuck one in through the open flap when we have emptied, then add enough water to cover the base of the holding tank.

    In the flush tank now we use only plain water.  Our previous van had no flush tank but used water from the Aquaroll, so we were not used to having to fill a flush tank.

    initially we used pink as directed, but soon found out about the black bits, so soon gave that up.  We have not used pink for 10 years.

    We do use our toilet a lot, for everything, so empty every 36-48 hours, it is usually full then.

  • JohnM20
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    edited April 2021 #21

    I don't think quantity of fluid for the cassette is an exact science. In warmer weather it will probably be necessary to use a bit more fluid to help keep odours down. It also depends, of course, on how frequently the loo is emptied. I know some people empty the cassette every day in which case using the prescribed amount for the full 15 ltrs may be a bit of a waste (excuse the pun).

  • KjellNN
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    edited April 2021 #22

    Mmmmm, we often saw, abroad, campers holding holding tanks gingerly, and emptying daily.  Presumably they only held liquids, and maybe even no chemicals.   Many campers seem afraid to use their toilets to the full extent!!

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited April 2021 #23

    In the flush tank I put in a half cap full of scented Zoflora, as it's a disinfectant. This stops any build up of the black deposit often associated with the pink fluid.