The CC Mag

SubaruEriba
SubaruEriba Forum Participant Posts: 9
edited March 2021 in Club Membership #1

Hi can anyone tell me WHY the CC are advertising Sri Lanka in this months Mag ,,,,

IT IS A CARAVAN CLUB MAG not a Holiday Mag


WHY is the Mag SO thin and 50% is Adds

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2021 #2

    It’s the ads that pay for the mag.

    As for thin, I guess there aren’t a lot of outfits being reviewed or trips to write about at present🙄.

    You can opt out of receiving it if you don't want it.

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  • Cornersteady
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    edited March 2021 #4

    I'm sure the club will advertise anything within reason as it will generate income? 

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited March 2021 #5

    I think that they've missed another trick, and as usual had little regards for CLs. There's an article on touring in Cornwall and of the 7 sites listed only 1 was a CL, the others being club or AS sites. Normally with these articles there are at least 2 if not 3 CLs highlighted. I wonder why, out of 90 in the county, only 1 was chosen this time! Aren't any of the rest up to a high enough standard to be included?

  • LLM
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    edited March 2021 #6

    Is there a membership price reduction for opting out of receiving the magazine? 

    Similar mags sold by W H Smiths seem to go for £3 per copy, probably more if delivered. 

    A reduction of some £40 per annum would seem quite reasonable, especially as it costs the CAMC nothing if the assertion that the advertising pay for it is accurate.   

     

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2021 #7

    Better ask the club, LLM. Maybe you'll find out as a new member - when you join, of course.

  • LLM
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    edited March 2021 #8

    Not when more if and a very big IF at that, but such a big reduction could just swing it wink.  

  • Cornersteady
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    edited March 2021 #9

    I think it has been stated that opting out may reduce advertising income. 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2021 #10

    Good luck with that one🤣🤣🤣

  • LLM
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    edited March 2021 #11

    Logical if a large proportion of the membership was to do it.  

  • Extugger
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    edited March 2021 #12
     

    The thinner it gets the better, as far as I'm concerned - less to recycle!

     
  • SteveL
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    edited March 2021 #13

    The C&CC say their magazine is worth £38 a year. However, digital membership is only £6 less. We take it though, as I would if offered by the CAMC.😀

  • peedee
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    edited March 2021 #14

    The C&CC don't seem to have suffered as a result in providing a digital offering for a reduced subscription. In fact it seems to have opened the door to a much more interesting way of presentation with pop ups and links to further information. I haven't noticed a decline in advertisement.

    The >C&MC mag< is also available on line with similar facilites but you do need a bit of detective work to find it! Why on earth they do not offer a similar offer to the C&CC is any ones guess.

    peedee

  • TobyLeeds
    TobyLeeds Forum Participant Posts: 146
    edited March 2021 #15

    The caravan and motorhome mag would be far more interesting if they published more critical letters of all things to do with caravans and the equipment therein.

    advertisers wouldn’t mind if the comments were constructive. Under the current editorial board it takes all of 10 minutes to read. Changes are necessary.

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited March 2021 #16

    I don't quite understand that view point, if you don't want the magazine tell the Club and they will stop sending it to you. The more that do that the the lower the printing run will be which is probably more environmentally friendly than accepting it and putting in the recycle bin?

  • Rufs
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    edited March 2021 #17

    I half read a review of the futuristic caravan, but as i will probably not be around to worry too much about how good or bad it is was not that interested, but did the £50k quoted include the car to pull it ?,

    also could not understand why they are putting teepees on the Isle of Wight they have problems with occupancy except for peak periods hence all the cheap ferry deals undecided

  • dunelm
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    edited March 2021 #18

    I don't know why some people are so negative about the  magazine; after all it is only one aspect of membership and surely wasn't one of the main reasons they joined the Club.

    I wonder if any of those who are critical of the content have ever submitted a letter, photo or article.

     

    A suggestion:

    Each month the CCC encloses along with its magazine a separate supplement providing details of all forthcoming weekend meets, rallies and temporary holiday sites throughout the UK. If CAMC were to produce something similar I would appreciate it as there seems to be no central point to access information for such events.

  • peedee
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    edited March 2021 #19

    I don't think the Club makes the best use of the magazine, it is too focused on pushing Club sites. The content needs to be varied far more.

    I have just finished reading the April issue of the C&CC magazine and as a general rule it has far more of interest in it than that of the CAMC magazines. For instance this month there are articles on electric bikes, the latest tyre legislation, payloads, batteries, plus the latest news and reviews etc. Well over an hour of interesting reading. I think the April addition of the CAMC's mag only took perhaps 5 to 10  mins of my time from front to back.

    peedee

  • JimE
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    edited March 2021 #20

    I too like the C&CC magazine best and have also opted for the paper supplement covering temporary holiday sites etc.

    I also agree that details of CMC rallies are not that easy to find, but you may find the following link helpful

    CMC Centre Events & Rally Search

    Hope this helps.  Jim

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2021 #21

    C&CC no longer distribute  the insert of rallies and meets as a matter of course although I think it may be possible to opt into it.

    I have a vague recollection of CAMC publishing something similar at one time but I might be wrong. The Centres have now stopped issuing their booklets listing forthcoming meets and we are supposed to check on the Centre's website instead.

    I think, Dunelm, that your wish will be seen as turning the clock back 🙁.

     

    I don't often read the mag but perhaps someone will know if they've published an article aimed at newcomers to the hobby. A sort of 'Vanning for Dummies' guide (no offence intended) to explain pitching, the correct use of CCEPs/MHSPs, EHU connecting and so on. In short, the basics of site usage which, from my observations, could be useful to some.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited March 2021 #22

    Well of course the club magazine pushes the club's site. It is the magazine of the CAMC It would be strange if it didn't? I assume that is what people join the club for? To use their sites? 

    The club does however report on tyres, batteries, latest news and reviews, amid other associated caravan and motorhome topics. And yes I remember articles on LV stuff too. I recall posting why a review of thermal flashes and water bottles were being reviewed.

    But as said if one is joining the club just for the magazine, or judging the club by finding fault with the state of the magazine then I find that strange. The club is there for its sites not the magazine, the magazine is not the most important thing in the club. In my view it is probably one of the least and if it went it wouldn't bother me at all.

    And why complain about the time it takes to read? Do you have to? 

  • dunelm
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    edited March 2021 #23

    Tinwheeler,

    As I wished to have the CCC supplement I opted in so, as I indicated, I receive a copy each month with my magazine. It was very easy to do so.

  • dunelm
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    edited March 2021 #24

     Thanks for the link Jim. I appreciate that.

     

    It requires a lot of exploration and moving to various pages or via links to find details such as location and price.

     For me the CCC "Out and About" supplement is much more user friendly as it is set out in regions where the events are to take place and contains details of  dates, location, directions and  fees  along with names and phone numbers of the stewards. In short, the whole of the UK is covered with all information clearly provided.

    Once again, thank you for the link.

     

     

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2021 #25

    Yep, as I said it is no longer automatically included. 

  • cyberyacht
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    edited March 2021 #26

    Never mind rallies etc. I'm still waiting for a promised price list for club sites and it's April in a few days time.

    Perhaps someone could report this post to chivvy them up at Grinstead Towers.

  • Bakers2
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    edited March 2021 #27

    Done.

  • Bakers2
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    edited March 2021 #28

    Done. This may appear twice, as it doesn't appear to have worked first time 🤐

    Edit, it takes an age to appear on the thread and the latest activity page! Someone please pop another hamster or 3 in the wheel..........

  • eurortraveller
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    edited March 2021 #29

    I have toured Sri Lanka independently - using trains and cars with drivers - but am puzzled by the idea of touring that island by motor home. It really isn’t obvious motorhome territory - even with the essential local driver, and there are no campsites 

    The climate is hot and wet tropical, and the south west corner catches the bulk of the rain.  Indoor, air conditioned accommodation in that climate, with netted protection against insects, will be much more comfortable than living in a motor home.

    For those travelling independently there are guides and escorts who are easy to find - although some of them difficult to shake off - and for those preferring an escorted tour there are reputable travel companies offering prices well below £4700 per person quoted for this particular tour.

    It’s well worth going - but not in a motorhome, and not at that price.

  • TobyLeeds
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    edited April 2021 #30

    There are many reasons for belonging to the CCM club, I agree sites, foreign tours are a part. I would like the magazine to be the “Trustpilot” for caravanning - honest opinions voiced on all things caravanning (including positive and negative comments on caravans, motorhome, cars and dealers). 
    will it ever happen - I doubt it.