Vat still at 5% ...fingers crossed

gizacuppatea
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edited March 2021 in Club Membership #1

Did i just hear the budget say that vat was staying at 5% for a further 6 months ? 
Hopefully that will get passed onto us again saving pitch site fees . Fingers crossed 😊

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  • SteveL
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    edited March 2021 #2

    It’s mentioned on the BBC news website. Extended until September. Hopefully they continue to pass it on.🤞

  • gizacuppatea
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    edited March 2021 #3

    Agreed 😊 . We haven’t really been able to take advantage of it much have we. 
    here’s hoping 😬😀

  • GTP
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    edited March 2021 #4

    Correct, until the end of September...as before to help the hospitality sector.  

    Like others.....The club do not have to pass this on to the customer..and in my personal opinion should not do so.  The incentive to attract more usage of sites is no longer valid as can be seen in the take up of bookings well into 2022.. 

    I would suggest the club use the savings to further improve the sites that have missed out from the last budget...

    I was going to say "invest in improving 'Club Together' but I have come to the conclusion that this is a lost cause...

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited March 2021 #5

    This is the quote from the BBC website:- "The reduced 5% VAT for the hospitality and tourism sector will be extended for six months to 30 September, and will not return to the full standard rate of 20% until April next year."

    Not quite sure what happens between the end of September and April next year?  

    Whilst it is a nice to have I am not entirely sure that it is needed as there so much pent up demand it's unlikely campsites will be empty regardless of whether VAT is 5 or 20%? Just a bit more to pay back later.

    David

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2021 #6

    From Sept 2021 to March 2022 there is to be an interim VAT rate of 12.5%.

  • peedee
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    edited March 2021 #7

    Not quite sure what happens between the end of September and April next year?

    An interim 12.5 percent will be charged.

    peedee

    P.S. Just beat me to it TW. Minimum wage is to increase which will put up site fees and tax allowances are frozen until 2026 which is going to have a double whammy on what will be affordable.

  • GTP
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    edited March 2021 #8

    DK..See my 3rd para....also the 20% VAT was an EU requirement. We can now set our own rate.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited March 2021 #9

    It is (to me) Interesting that some suggest the club shouldn't pass on the reduction. I'm not bothered either way but it's interesting as I recall from last time that some posters were saying that if the club didn't pass on the reduction the club would be committing fraud, cheating it's members, they wouldn't use a club ever again... and more like it.

     

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2021 #10

    Corners, are you standing by to explain the calculations of the changes from 20 to 5 to 12.5 to 20%? Remember last time?🤣🤣🤣

  • peedee
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    edited March 2021 #12

    Not heard anything about the C&CC extending membership fees again, my sub is due tomorrow after the 3 month holiday. The booking terms are officially much more flexible.

    peedee

  • Cornersteady
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    edited March 2021 #13

    I was just thinking the same thing!

    I think it will be a case of - it just is, OK!

  • brue
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    edited March 2021 #14

    We've had a letter Peedee, our cards run out soon and we can produce the letter to say we have an extension from 16/03/21 to 16/06/21 if needed. We will need the letter as we are hoping to use C&CC sites in May.

    Or is this the extension from last year..maybe I'm confused?! wink

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited March 2021 #15

    I think we posted at the same moment!

    Just a slight correction the EU required a minimum rate of 15% and member governments were able to select any rate above that. I suppose the Government could do away with VAT and reintroduce Purchase Tax? To me it's a bit academic because I am not convinced it was necessary now or previously. I think the pub/restaurant trade might be different case but perhaps it was difficult to separate them out? 

    The Club, having passed on the reduction to members last time I just can't see them not doing the same this time. How would they justify that? No doubt we will get clarification in the next day or two.

    David

     

  • peedee
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    edited March 2021 #16

    Or is this the extension from last year..maybe I'm confused?!

    I suspect so Bru. I had a news letter yesterday and there was no mention of a further subs extension.

    peedee

  • LLM
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    edited March 2021 #17

    Varying VAT Rates in Europe  We have always been able to set our own rates.  Leaving the EU had no effect.

  • brue
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    edited March 2021 #18

    The letter we have has to be used in place of our soon to be out of date membership cards..I presume we'll get new cards in June instead of mid March.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2021 #19

    Our extension was from last November to February and we had the same letter. The renewal notice and new cards arrived in Feb.

  • GTP
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    edited March 2021 #20

    I stand corrected on the 15% minimum...which was a requirement set by the EU..In a previous life I had read a note on 20% being mooted.

    As for the club passing on the VAT reduction...this was just my personal opinion...and as you yourself say 'was it necessary previously'...agree the club will have difficulty justifying any change in policy..

  • JollyKernow
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    edited March 2021 #21

    Evening All

    If you read the terms and conditions of a site booking made with the club it clearly states that vat will be charged at the going rate. So, it's early starts for us again adjusting payments lolwink

    JK

  • RedKite
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    edited March 2021 #22

    Thank you JK for your information.

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  • JVB66
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    edited March 2021 #24

    If you want a "war" from those who do not "need it"against those  who "say they do" 

    It is better an across the board decision

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  • JVB66
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    edited March 2021 #26

    Now you explain your postundecided

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited March 2021 #27

    Any company that has ££millions in a war chest are not in any need for bail out funds👍🏻

  • gizacuppatea
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    edited March 2021 #28

    Brilliant 😊👍 

    Thanks for pointing this out . Never noticed it . 

  • GTP
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    edited March 2021 #29

    R2b...I'm not sure the club..or any other company/organisation in the VAT reduction nominated group will have any choice in how they pay the VAT to HMG....in which case I suggested, as my personal opinion, that the VAT monies should not be passed on but improve those sites that missed out on the last sites budget...

    or...the club could invest a new server at EG..

  • harryb
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    edited March 2021 #30

    So we now have the answer. Site prices at 5% until September 30th then a further extension until Mar 31st 2022 at 12.5%

    This has been announced on Facebook club page

     

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited March 2021 #31

    GTP, I was generalising re VAT as in all reductions should be passed on to members unless a company could go under if it didn’t. I remember someone posting that C&MC had ££millions in its fighting fund(apparently gleaned from the published accounts) it that is so why wouldn’t they pass on the reduction🤷🏻‍♂️👍🏻