What Car is the Best to Tow With

Welsh Phill
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edited February 2021 in Towcars & Towing #1

HI, We are going to change our car this year and were wondering whether the Kia Sportage 1.6 TGDI AWD Petrol   174BHP, KB is  1604KG and the MBTW IS 1900KG,  We have a abbey aventura 5 berth the MPLW is 1342 would the above vehicle tow this caravan or would the Skoda Kodiaq 1.5 tsi 148bhp with a MTW OF 1800KG BE BETTER.

Kind Regards

Welsh Phill

 

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  • JVB66
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    edited February 2021 #2

    What do you tow with nowundecided

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited February 2021 #3

     

    As for tow cars, I'd personally not consider a petrol of any breed unless it was was about 3 litre with 6 or 8 pots.

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  • eribaMotters
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    edited February 2021 #4

    Up to a couple of years ago I'd have agreed with you regards diesel only, but for a van of the above weight modern petrol engines are very good.

    The torque they produce is far closer to diesel levels than they used to be and the delivery is across a far higher rev range making for less gear changing to keep within what has become a narrow power band for some modern diesel engines.

    The 1.5tsi referred to I run in my Audi A3 pulling a [admittedly low roof height] 1200kg van and I'm impressed. I know of one Kodiaq owner with the same engine who did what I believe was a near 10,000 mile continental trip in 2019 pulling a 1200/1300kg van.

    Colin

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited February 2021 #5

    Hmm, I'm not convinced.  It's at what revs the torque is produced that counts.

    I have a modern 1.6 petrol car and I'd be reluctant to tow a garden trailer with it let alone a slab sided wind blocker caravan😆. Still, each to their own.

  • eribaMotters
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    edited February 2021 #6

    My now sold 2014 2.0L diesel Skoda Yeti:-

    110bhp at 4,200rpm

    250N/m torque at 1,500 - 2,500rpm

     

    My current 1.5 petrol Audi A3:-

    150bhp at 5,000 - 6,000rpm

    250N/m torque at 1,500 - 3,500rpm

     

    Colin

  • flatcoat
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    edited February 2021 #7

    I agree with tinwheeler. Having both a modern turbo petrol rev box and a grunty diesel (plug-in hybrid as it happens) in the household, the petrol needs far more rowing with the gearstick to maintain good progress. For towing Diesel still walks the torque, petrol will only ever talk the torque. The only caveat in favour of petrol is the old American maxim ‘there ain’t no substitute for cubes’ (or CC in our language). 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited February 2021 #8

    Nail on head, FC👍

  • ADP1963
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    edited February 2021 #9

    Wow Tinwheeler......that must have been some nail you bought ! laughing Name the brand and save others from your experience.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited February 2021 #10

    I don't understand your post, ADP. I was saying FC is correct.

    My current car is simply a local run around and is very good at doing that.

  • ADP1963
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    edited February 2021 #11

    Tinwheeler you said you would be reluctant to pull a garden trailer with your car which is a 1.6 petrol run around. In 1996 I pulled a twin wheeled Lunar delta home 35 miles, because it was the only way I could get my caravan home with a 1.4 l Ford Escort . I imagine a present day 1.6 petrol engine would be far superior to a 1996 one and yet yours seems that is not the case, So I wondered what make of car was so under powered not to be able to give you confidence in towing a garden trailer.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited February 2021 #12

    I think you mistook my figure of speech comment for actuality - note the smiley.

    However, it is in no way a tow car and I would not expect it to successfully tow a sizeable trailer. Had I wanted a tow car, I would have bought a Discovery Sport. I don't take risks with underpowered cars.👍🏻

  • ADP1963
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    edited February 2021 #13

    Then like my mate who bought a Discovery Sport you would probably had constant repair bills. I don't take risks either, I always consider the vehicles capabilities and mine and arrive at the correct decision, An adequate powered car in incapable hands can be more dangerous than an under powered car in the right hands as far as I am concerned.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited February 2021 #14

    Whatever. The point I was making was designed to help the OP avoid buying a petrol engined car without adequate towing ability.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited February 2021 #15

    I was probably crawling along in our 4 litre Jeep Cherokee behind you wondering what the heck had possessed the fool up in front to try such a combination😂

    A ride on lawn mower will tow, but it isn’t usually a good idea!🤣

  • ADP1963
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    edited February 2021 #16

     As I said it was the only way I could get my Caravan home . But then again, I would have thought had I known you were behind me, what fool in a 4 litre Jeep would stay behind me. As I progressed to say, some more suitable vehicles are still not a benefit with a crap driver. I might add I do tow my garden trailer behind my ride on lawn mower and it is an excellent idea as far as I am concerned as it saves me a lot of work.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited February 2021 #17

    😂😂😂

  • ADP1963
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    edited February 2021 #18

    Stick together girls winksmilelaughing

  • eribaMotters
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    edited February 2021 #19

    I love a difference of opinions.

     

    Colin

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited February 2021 #20

    Only a bit of fun, which thankfully you noticed. But I did once share an office with someone who loved my tales of caravan life. So much so, he went out and bought a six berth twin axle. His first trip out was to see family in Lake District, and then up to Edinburgh for Festival. He sold it on his return, as he got so much hassle going up M6. As you would averaging 30mph. He was towing with a 1.4 Ford something or other...... 🤷‍♀️

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2021 #21

    The op it seems has not yet come back ,to answer my post, as if he did it may go some way to answer his requestundecided

  • davetommo
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    edited February 2021 #22

    I must be missing out. My Discovery Sport has not cost me a penny in repair bills. The one before that the same. And as for the Freelander before that apart from fuel servicing etc the only money I spent on that car in 5 yeas for a set of tyres.

  • ADP1963
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    edited February 2021 #23

    Davetommo.......Sorry I got that wrong. my mates car is the Range Rover Sport. He bought it new and has cost him a fortune in repairs. He doesn't tow anything either.

  • ADP1963
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    edited February 2021 #24

    P.S glad your having trouble free motoring.smile