Club prices
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Club sites are expensive? but then many comercial sites are even more expensive and thats before all the "hidden extras" are added
I think that at our age(well into our pensions) they are more "expensive" than when we were working (my old job is still there but with two assisants? and salary ,4times higher),but then salaries have mostly increased a lot since we retired, as have costs for what we now come to expect ,
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Also many non club sites have an 'all inclusive' price for a couple but then they start charging extra for additional things like people, awnings, dogs, cars, pup tents
and some sites can work out cheaper if you have none of these extras.
If you use your own faciliities it is also much cheaper, go for the low facility sites or even off grid. I reakon with the rush for bookings this year the latter could be the solution to finding pitches.
If you don't like the Clubs prices, cast your net wider.
peedee
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Is the original post a generic comment on site prices or just the one at that location.
We all know club sites can make your eyes water at times but we don't have to use them. We join the club for different reasons as our needs and priorities differ. I use Red Pennant, some European sites, some European crossings and the CL network. I'd go as far to say it's a last resort that I use a main club site. As much as I like some of them they are expensive.
Colin
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If you don't like the Clubs prices, cast your net wider.
yes + 1 there PD, I have always said that.
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Incidentally, I see the non-member fee has increased to £13 per night.
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I would say not. It would be a very silly business model to drive your potential customers away like that?
What happens is that people will see the advantages of joining and become a member and make more income for the club. I assume that is what you did?
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I assume that is what you did?
Don't think so, I am pretty sure I never gave it a thought. In the early days I used to rally more than use Club sites in fact my very first trip out was to a rally 6 miles away. I also do not recall the non member fee being very onerous 30 plus years ago.
peedee
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Mmm, it makes you realise what an absolute bargain the £54 membership fee is. 🤪😉🤣
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In 1999 the highest price band was £2 per pitch and £4 per adult, while the lowest was £1 pitch fee and £0.50 per adult. The middle bands were £1 pitch and £3.25/£2.60 per adult, plus £2.20 or £1.45 for EHU.
So giving a middle price of about £10 per couple per night. There were six price bands. A SP was £1 per night extra while Chatsworth super pitches were £2 extra.
The non members fee was £5.
Post edit the membership fee was £27.50.
Double post edit the undisrupted master of towing was the Citroen Xantia with 50% more pulling power!
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i think it would be lower than what it costs in most areas, as the whole concept of the way most cc and ccc sites are "managed" as in 1999 a lot of work that was done by site staff then ,is now having to be outsourced which also is not a cheap option
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Kjell inflation since 1999 has been in the region of 2.8% per year, according to the Bank of England https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/monetary-policy/inflation/inflation-calculator
This shows that as of last year £10 in 1999 would be £17:72, and Membership fee would be £48.73. So both have increased above inflation and site fees by a much higher percentage.
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Well Nellie said what those prices would be now but that is totally different to what should we be paying now?
The club doesn't have to keep its prices allowing for inflation, does it? Like any other business it can charge whatever it likes today.
The only thing to ask oneself is should I pay it?
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However, if it continues to raise its prices way above inflation, as it is doing at present, there will come a time when many of the membership won't be able to afford their prices because they will not be having their income rise at a similar rate. How many thousands of members are already feeling the pinch because of the effects of Covid? It will eventually become a club for the wealthy only.
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You could well be right.
But the same could be said of all holiday/leisure companies and not just the club in this respect. As for covid what was the figure on page 2? 20% increase in holiday costs elsewhere?
However there appears to be no downturn in club bookings year on year, people every year complain about not getting pitches and talk about rationing bookings. And as can be proved the club is middle of the road for prices. There are cheaper and more expensive sites out there.
Personally the club will set what it wants/needs to make a profit, I've said before the club isn't a charity, it is a business that will set whatever prices it thinks people will pay. If it is too expensive for some then that is sadly life. If it happens to me, as well it might, I won't complain and I won't expect prices to be lowered.
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You do have to ask why the Club is increasing prices. Surely not because they think it's a good idea? There have been times in the recent past when the site network has operated at a loss. We surely need to look at the pressures that are causing the increase in site fees. My guess would be that they come under two main headings. Staff wages as the NMW has risen above the rate of inflation and the cost of electricity both are large pressures on the site network running costs. As members we don't have access to these figures but it would be interesting to know. You could work round this by having a base price onto which you add extras like awnings, dogs etc as most commercial sites do and you could even make Peedee happy by introducing metering but would members be really happy with that approach as it would only benefit the minority. There has also got to be an element of future investment which most of us enjoy when sites are refurbished. None of this comes cheap. Personally I don't think our hobby has been cheap for years. On the other hand last year I only spent about £200 on site fees and 2021 risks being another year where we may not be able to spend as much time away as we imagine? Sad as it may be but if a pastime becomes too expensive individuals have to make a decision on whether they can continue. We are going to hit this issue big time with the introduction of electric cars, just to end on a cheerful note!!!
David
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Trying to look back at my company pension (main source of income) then and now, without digging in our files I can only see as far back as mid 2012. Since then my pension has increased by just under 11%, while official inflation rate has been 22.5%. So not anywhere near keeping up with overall inflation, never mind CAMC inflation.
So we have a choice......fewer nights away or less expensive sites.
At present we are choosing less expensive sites such as CLs as no point in paying for facilities we now do not need when only the 2 of us to cater for.
So, yes, I would think most pensioners will have to choose between less expensive sites, fewer nights away, or dipping into funds set aside for other, more essential, purposes.
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David, the clue is in 🤪😉🤣.
What you pay overthere is totally irrelevant in the context of the topic of this thread but you seemed to enjoy your longer stays on club sites last year whatever the price you willingly paid.👍
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My biggest gripe with club prices are School Holiday prices for young families. It doesn't affect me in any way whatsoever as we don't go anywhere near club sites during those dates, however it must make life much more costly and difficult for the young families. We use CL sites wherever possible and that is our sole reason for our club membership and has been since 1978. When we do use the club sites we are inevitably satisfied with the quality of what we get. Do I think it is good value?..........no I do not, but on the other hand there isn't much that is value for money today and I am not prepared to risk holidays on the unknown. Hence our membership and the continuation of it.
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And to think you label others as "silly boys". 🙄
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Rufs-bringing logic into the equation always falls on deaf ears, you need to flow with the fantasy🤣🤣
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, for that amount of money I can have a month away in the UK 
