Arrival times
Many commercial sites have 12 as their time and one I visited even allowed arrival in the morning by arrangement.
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Well I'll be so happy to get back to a club site that the change of arrival time will be the least of my worries.
I think people arrived at 12 because that was the arrival time and not because people want 12?
Some sites do have problems with congestion with those leaving at 12 and arriving at 12 so perhaps that is the reason? Also some do try and arrive before 12 causing further congestion. Wardens needing a proper lunch hour on single set warden sites? Who knows?
Some commercials actually have 2pm.
12 or 1, who cares I'll be alive and back on a site!
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Arrival times by members are normally as per the site earliest arrivals and more sites are going down the 1130-1200 departures and 1300 hrs arrival to give site staff a chance to get pitches sorted before next arrivals and also to get a break after the add cleaning now required,
As for commercial one we use in Norfolk is 1100 deps and 1400 for arrivals,
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Many cottages are, or were before the latest lockdown, adopting 3pm and in some cases 5pm arrival times to allow for enhanced cleaning. I really find it staggering that in the present situation anyone should suggest a 1 hour time difference is of any great importance.
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In the grand scheme of things, I think an hour later arrival time is of no consequence.
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We've found the same Moulesy. Booked a cottage and arrival time is 4pm, departure 10 am.
If members "insist" on 12.00 arrivals then I can see departures being brought forward to accommodate it.
CAMC does have to abide by Working Time Directive.
Personally, I'm happy to abide by any arrival/departure time set by any site, whether Club or Independent or those abroad.
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As long as it is clear what the time is I don’t have an issue. Last year there was a bit of confusion, as times were changed after folk had booked and that fact wasn’t always communicated.
We will just be pleased to get away and put our rather expensive lump of metal and plastic to some use.1 -
Can’t get my head around this obsession with 12 noon arrivals - what time of night do these people get up to arrive so early? My problem is the reverse - getting off in time. By the time we’ve got up around 9am, washed, had breakfast and faffed about with waste, water and putting stuff away etc it’s invariably about 12 noon. Wouldn’t want to be forced out earlier. We usually end up organising our morning around the quaint CMC tradition of closing washrooms for cleaning as it is. Chill out, have a couple more hours in bed, they’ll still be a pitch when you get there.
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agree with you on getting off for 12. In fact now we can I book an extra night and then just take my time leaving by about 3.
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This has been discussed many times over the years and no solution, given the many constraints that exist, have suited all, members, staff and site itself. One problem has always been that issue of lunch times coinciding with the time some wish to arrive. Other issues being site specific, like access, are not always appreciated with the need for standardisation which a few are rather fixated by. I'm another who is willing to accept those decisions made by those that most probably know best.
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What the actual arrival time for each site might be is really of very low importance. What does matter a great deal is that it is applied to ALL arrivals - without exceptions on the day for "regulars", wardens "pals", people who just "arrived too early", and similar excuses.
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Absolutely agree. It should be clear when you book what is the earliest time to arrive. If it changes, then individuals should be informed of the change. It doesn't matter to me what about what the earliest time of arrival is, or whether it is different from one site to another, but communication is the important thing.
David
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Agree to that
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I agree but as with many other "rules" in life, there will be those who think that rules don't apply to them or they're there to be broken. People who think it's clever to get there first so that they can get the best pitches. None of us is perfect but it's so frustrating for others who have to live with these selfish members.
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I wonder if CCC have the same problem? You generally don’t get to choose your pitch so no advantage to queuing intently at the gate to secure the best pitch. I generally don’t care too much what pitch I get allocated, none of them are truly awful and I’ll probably only be there a couple days anyway, so c’est la vie.
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I am sorry on this thread,I am firmly in the 12:00 camp and await the queue's and confusion now.
I watched in amazement when the CCC introduced this under the pretext of "Relieving Congestion at the Site Entrance"" what a amazing term for queue's blocking entrances.
On a Friday Afternoon in the summer I watched van's pulling into layby's blocking driveway's and driving back and forth wasting time,already the site entrance was blocked even with Van's in the overnight area..This was their Canterbury site.
TBH other CCC sites we have visited people now queue at the entrance waiting for the 13:00 opening it cannot be avoided,someone will always get there first.Anyone visiting Keswick queue's
Winter time can be an utter pain,by the time you actually get to your pitch 13:00hrs to 13:45 hrs,after queuing,set up its nearly dark (Chertsey) all for a weekend.
I have no actual reason why moving this time an hour causes this issue,after all its only an hour,but it does.
The other pain with this,if you are touring from site to site say within a 2 hour journey,you are constantly watching the arrival time on sat nav ,driving slower,or hanging around the site you are leaving.
Before keyboard warriors suddenly wake up and say you are the people who get there early,and ruin it for everyone else,yes only once,when arriving at Braithwaite Fold (now Bowness on Windermere) when leaving Meathop Fell.I waited in a layby for 1 hour only for the Sat Nav to wipe 30 mins off the arrival time.
It is not easy for caravanners to find suitable laybys.
Give me 5 minutes to get my tin hat.
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Evening
In case anyone has a vague interest, I can state that any change in arrival time has nothing whatsoever to do with a staff lunch break.
JK
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Elephant in the room moment. Many members are just plain selfish and must have their favoured pitch so turn up at the flag drop. The change in 12 or 1 has no major difference.
Bookable pitches would stop this farce, you dont get this disgraceful behavior where pitch booking is allowed.
Now you can all scream that you get there at 12 on the dot because of some spurious reason..... FOMO of a decent pitch, plain and simple.
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So many suggesting that 12 o'clock arrivals just want to get the best pitch but that is not necessarily so. We like to get up and get going in the morning [leaving a site to go home just as much as arriving at the start of the holiday] and sitting around just waiting to go is a real pain to us. I would happily pay the previous night's pitch fee to be allowed to arrive when I got there rather than can't arrive before a fixed time. You can't do that though as it counts as a no show.
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I've never yet found a pitch that was noticeably inferior to all the others. Personally I would prefer an earlier leaving time to a later arrival but I try to avoid the initial rush anyway.
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You could pick sites further apart, Easy👍🏻
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Same here, ET. Fortunately most CLs are 12:00 arrival times, and others that have later arrival times are, more often than not, flexible if we are visiting out of peak season.
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Some members need to get realistic 🤔 without the arrival of a timely COVID-19 vaccine for some of our older membership there won't be a site arrival time for some unfortunate members.
COVID-19 as truely shown just how selfish & self centred the people of our once Great Britain was.
Me, myself & I seems to be the latest virus to show itself in our modern society of today.
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