Is it worth renewing

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  • Unknown
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    edited January 2021 #92
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  • Takethedogalong
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    edited January 2021 #93

    Some of the interiors are amazing AD. We see quite a few when we go to Jeep Fest type events. They always attract attention for the work that goes into them. Things like Pinzgauers and Unimogs tour the world, deserts, Arctic, central Africa.

     

  • JVB66
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    edited January 2021 #94

    Back in the Eighties and before many of the site staff employed were ex military ,as were area managers and club head honchos, who looked on site wardens to be able to carry out instructions and run a "tight ship"cool 

    I think it was also still a receipt book with hand written top copy given to members ,for their pitch fees 

    Before the long "Kalamazoo" booking in system of paper receipts was introduced

    then computers took overundecided

    Long term memory,still ok surprisedwink

    short termundecidedfrownen 

  • Compo
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    edited January 2021 #95

    I'm glad the club has certain standards. That's the reason I joined the club in the first place, however I think people who wish to stay at club sites should be judged more by their behaviour rather than what equipment they may have. Easier said than done unfortunately.

  • MikeyA
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    edited January 2021 #96

    A few years ago we hired a  motorhome in Australia. One night we were staying on a campsite in the Hunter Valley wine growing area and a family arrived quite late with their caravan. The following morning we noticed the father and eldest son had not stayed in the caravan but had simply slept under the stars in sleeping bags.

    I'm definitely sure the CAMC would have a rule against that!

  • Cornersteady
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    edited January 2021 #97

    I can't find one and in late July 2019 during that heatwave peak when the Sandringham site was at 34C in the late evening (I remember lingering in the local Co-op which had air conditioning at 9.30pm)  a lot of people did sleep out on the grass rather than in their outfits.

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  • Cornersteady
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    edited January 2021 #99

    the warden will inspect your van to check that the seats and cooking equipments are fixed, and that the conversion meets CMC standards

    except that is not what JK said, I've never had my van inspected before being let on nor have I seen any outfit being inspected and what CAMC standards? The 'rules' are that the sleeping/seats must be fixed hardly a harsh CAMC 'standard' but rather the norm I would have thought across all UK sites?

    I think what JK is saying is that if you arrive with a caravan and MH it won't even be looked at, or even something that looks as if it was intended/converted for camping, but arrive with a white van that's looks as if it has a mattress thrown in the back then it will be looked at.

    It doesn't appeal.

    Is anyone forcing you? Go where it does appeal?

     

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited January 2021 #100

    Why would you immediately jump to the conclusion that the reason for the rules are to do with elitism? Surely the purpose of the rules is to make sure the vehicle is safe to use on a site. Just imagine the situation of a rainy day and someone trying to cook on a free standing camping stove inside said vehicle and it gets knocked over, causes a fire and puts other units at risk. Personally I am glad that the Club takes H&S seriously. 

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited January 2021 #101

    The Dutch seem to love them, our Jeep Club had a lot of Dutch members who would come across for events, sleep up in tents on roof racks, pullout extensions to rear of Jeeps, and as I say, those wonderful Pinzgauers. They can be tall vehicles though, as you say. Step ladder just to get into cab.

    I think the vast majority of folks would like to know that they are pitched next to a safe outfit, with occupants happy to follow Site rules and guidance. But tents don’t have fixed in beds or fixed in cookers. CCC doesn’t make this an issue, nor do many UK private Sites. Decent spacing, staff discreetly monitoring common sense living. 

    Has anyone ever seen a roof tent on a pitch at a Club Site, not in the camping area, if there is one? It’s not something we have seen, maybe JK has?🤔

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited January 2021 #102

    Yes!

    Ah, you didn't say which club🤔

  • JVB66
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    edited January 2021 #103

    Quite a few yeras ago there was on a site a WW2 Bedford ex RAF fuel tanker ,that the owner had replaced  the tank with a caravan body and he had also put a roof hatch where the bren gun used to fit in the cab roofsurprised

  • JVB66
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    edited January 2021 #104

    I have seen in the distant past a real Land Rover110 with a tent on the roof,the kitchen was swung out from the back of the vehicle to the left and a canvas toilet tent with toilet to the rightsurprised

  • JVB66
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    edited January 2021 #105

    When at a cclub site in the Cotswolds our grandaughter and her boyfriend bedded down in sleeping  bags under our windout canopy when staying with us in 2019 during a hot weekend rather than put their pup tent upcool

  • brue
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    edited January 2021 #106

    My thoughts on that is the occupants of van would be just as careful as the occupants of a fully equipped palace on wheels. We see what happens every year with some incidents, but they are rare thankfully.

    On those grounds why does the club accept tents with an air mattress inside and camping cookers?!

    We used to attend VSCC meetings where we saw huge coachbuilt motorhomes along side tents and safari landrovers, no one objected on the ground of looks and safety was important to all.

  • cyberyacht
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    edited January 2021 #107

    ABM wrote"..where the bren gun used to fit in the cab roof"

    That'd stop short cuts across your pitch. wink

  • JollyKernow
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    edited January 2021 #108

    In 11 years working with the club I've only ever had a look in 3 vans (not inspect) in that time and only one of those was in my opinion unsafe with a camping gas stove balanced on the front seat and a sleeping bag on the floor. It's not just the fire risk but the equally dangerous risk of CO poisoning. To me how anyone wants to camp is entirely up to them but the club takes the safety of it's staff and customers seriously. I do find it strange that that duty of care can be construed as having an elitist attitude but hey. Take a look around a club site during the summer, just like any other site, elitist it definitely ain'twink

    JK

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited January 2021 #109

    Now that’s brave, a Freelander. Not the tent bit, the fact that it’s on a grass pitch😂 Ours only ever worked in two wheel drive. I somehow bet that that is CCC.

    I held out against the roof tent idea. I would have undoubtedly either broke my neck climbing out for a midnight pee......or walked in my sleep. Found doing so on a couple of occasions at home...🤣

  • kenexton
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    edited January 2021 #110

    Some 20 years ago I witnessed a unit catch on fire and it is not something I want to experience again.It went up terrifyingly quickly and two of the occupants were so badly burned that they required skin grafts.Safety rules are in the name.I agree with everything that JK has said in regard to ensuring that all are kept safe on site and that all on site behave safely.32 years in the CMC this year and I have no problem with the R and R of the Club or with the Wardens' oversight of them.A little common sense goes a long way.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited January 2021 #111

    It’s a lot different now to how it used to be JK, as are the nice Club Wardens, but we go back a whole lot further than that, and we did actually have a female Warden say to us “this Club doesn’t allow your sort of vehicle”. We were made to demonstrate how our pop roof worked, how the seats converted into a bed, was the two ring burner a proper hob? We were mid 20’s, it was the only vehicle we could afford at the time, and if I recall, our lovely well behaved Rottweiler was viewed with deep suspicion at the time.

    Attitudes like this drove us away from the Club for a good few years, we enjoyed using nice private Sites. We re joined with a small caravan, and of course were welcomed without issues, other than the fact our van was, and invariably is, amongst the oldest on a Site. The curiosity value tends to be more on the part of other Members rather than Wardens nowadays. Maybe not elitist, but there is still “something” on some kinds of Club Sites. Some are definitely the realm of the big white box, carefully aligned, super clean, brand spanking new. Not a criticism, it’s just an observation. 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited January 2021 #112

    Yes, C&CC Moffat.

    And this at C&CC Dingwall. I do like the diversity.😀

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited January 2021 #113

    Me too superb dancers👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻😗😗

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited January 2021 #114

    I have one of those-Tentbox Lite👍🏻. Sleeps 3.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited January 2021 #115

    I wondered if that was you, Rocky, but I guessed not when I saw the Welsh number plate.🙂

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited January 2021 #116

    I daren’t go to Wales-If Fish is on Border control I’m toast🤷🏻‍♂️☹️

  • davetommo
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    edited January 2021 #117

    Don’t worry I have heard he has run out of ammo for his blunderbus.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited January 2021 #118

    Do you use it with your big pick up Rocky? Interested in how it fits.👍

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited January 2021 #119

    We've similar on the Sandringham site.....the C&CC one.wink

  • SteveL
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    edited January 2021 #120

    Not sure I see the logic in a roof tent in the UK. Surely it would be better on the ground, particularly if the wind picks up. We don't get a lot of lions roaming free on CAMC sites,😉 although perhaps Longleat if they escape.😂

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited January 2021 #121

    Yes I do👍🏻, I changed the truck this year from a black one to a red one👍🏻😂. Fit?, perfectly😊. It clamps to the roof bars.