Tier 2 CLs Re-Opening 2nd December

I think you will find that most members that use CLs are fully aware of the need for CL owners to turn a profit, particularly those members who regularly use them.

I have seen prices increase quite substantially this year but some of this will undoubtedly be due to the loss of revenue sustained through the closures due to various lockdowns and some of it will be the increase in usage of electricity. The LVs of today certainly have more equipment that will use up that resource and more and more members are touring year round, so I do understand that there will be those owners that will need a recalibration of their pricing. 

In the last 2 years since the S.D. came out I have stayed on about 30 Cls and a couple of them are charging for full facilities when they are not providing them. One example this year was an increase of 33% from £15 to £18 after lockdown finished for basically a grass field that had been used for over 15 years as a CL but no toilet facility which was closed due the pandemic. The field was undulating and the recently mowed grass was not picked up. The Elsan point was basic in the extreme. I won't be visiting again. Yet, a different CL had increased their price by the same percentage and provided better cleaner facilities and I was happy to pay the price. It's not all price orientated from the consumers point of view.

I have no wish for you as a CL owner to subsidise my stay but some members may have to reduce the number of nights away per year to fit into their budget and others may decide that they will stay on club sites in low season as prices may well be close enough to each other.

I sincerely wish you well and if it means that you have to charge, say £20 per night to survive and people are willing to fill your CL then good luck to you. I would just like to see value for money. If that means a higher price but top class facilities then I will pay it if it suits me but I won't pay it if the prices are too steep for what I will be getting.

So your statement that "If I see anything sub £15 I wonder what the catch is." is written from a CL owners point of view and not as I read as a CL user? 🤔 Strange way of putting over an owners point of view. That sounds like a buyer not a seller.

I think JVB was referring to himself, WN, as he's definitely one of the older generation, being even older than I am..

There are only two things i can think of the sites have done that have made life better for users 

JVB there are many other "things" sites have done to improve life for the user,

such as installing hard standing 

such as installing toilets and/or showers 

such as providing free wifi 

such as making each pitch a fully or partially serviced pitch 

such as having fully automated booking service on websites that some have set up together with Social Media accounts

And yes some are still the same as they ever were. That's the beauty of CLs, the Variety of them.

I never said they fees didn't have to increase. You'll have a hard job finding a quote from me along those lines. What still applies now as it did years ago is value for money. 

Am I happy paying £14 per night for a muddy grass field with a potholed entrance road, a filthy Elsan point, with the owners dog doing its business on the CL area? No I'm not. 

Will I pay £20 for the site nearby that has hardstanding serviced pitch and is clean and tidy. Yes I would and I have.

I do understand the econmics but when you have a poor product that you are having a hard job of selling to your customer base and increase your price by a double digit percentage then that isn't clever. 

We've all seen new CLs open up and charge way above what the market will accept and either close fairly soon after or reduce their price.

Nothing in my post should be taken as posts against those CL owners own sites. I am speaking generally.