Hybrid tow car

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  • brue
    brue Forum Participant Posts: 21,176 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    edited August 2020 #32

    It's good to hear how things went, although we're running a full EV which doesn't tow the experience of adjusting compares with ours. It also shows for local journeys the charging system is more than adequate and costs very little v diesel or petrol. 

    We are sticking with our ev but a hybrid would give us extra usage regarding towing trailers etc. We've been impressed with the hybrid technology when trying it out. 

  • Amesford
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    edited August 2020 #33

    Last week we picked up our new 2 ltr diesel Kuga Mhev (Mild Hybrid and does not need to be plugged in) we were hoping to go away next month to test it out but its not looking good at the moment.

     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-p__-iKMEM&t=3s

     

  • Oscarmax
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    edited August 2020 #34

     We just changed from a 2017 Ford Kuga 150 bhp powershift it was an excellent tow car, we were achieving 28 -29 mpg towing. 

    You will really  notice the extra torque generated from the hybrid system, pulling away from standing start at of roundabout.

    Look forward to your reviews.

  • Oscarmax
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    edited August 2020 #35

    Our Kuga 150bhp powershift achieved 28 -29mpg towing our 1500 Swift Conqueror 480 plus petrol is 6 pence cheaper, financially the Outlander PHEV only had 543 miles on the clock it needs to loosen up a bit?

  • Oscarmax
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    edited October 2020 #36

    Well back from Black Knowl again  gain a lot more experience still happy with the Outlander PHEV, PHEV now at 2500 miles and has loosened up a little the car showing 29.6mpg but in reality achieving 28.3mpg on the way down measure brim to brim, it was extremely cold the return journey again measured brim to brim it measured 26.5 mpg, as petrol is a little cheaper than diesel it compares very well when compared to our 2017 Ford Kuga Powershift with 20,000 miles on the clock.

    Over the past 4 months and 2500 miles we calculate we have saved just over £180 in fuel cost compared to the Kuga, this includes petrol, changing up at home £0.50 a charge and charging up at clubs site £2.00 a day.

    The Ford Kuga is definitely a better towcar by far, however the PHEV has superior running costs.

  • Debbie Phillips
    Debbie Phillips Forum Participant Posts: 7
    edited November 2020 #37

    We are thinking about leasing an Outlander. Has anyone had any experience of this?

  • flatcoat
    flatcoat Forum Participant Posts: 1,571
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    edited November 2020 #38

    Experience of leasing or experience of the Outlander? If the latter just read the thread but bear in mind Mitsubishi are pulling out of the UK/EU, the outlander is basically an 8 year old design and there are much newer and better hybrids around for similar money. 

  • Debbie Phillips
    Debbie Phillips Forum Participant Posts: 7
    edited November 2020 #39

    Leasing & the Outlander. Good point about Mitsibushis standing in the UK. I have looked at many different hybrids (online) and cant see any others that have the tow capacity at similar price. Any suggestions?

  • Oscarmax
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    edited November 2020 #40

    SsangYong cars are in advanced negotiations with Mitsubishi to take over from Colt cars.

    The Outlander PHEV was updated in 2019 with a 2.4 litre engine a larger battery and updated electrics/motors, plus it has a 4WD and good off road abilities.

    The latest similar price 2WD alternatives Ford Kuga PHEV towing limit 1200kg, Peugeot/Citroen PHEV 1250kg.

    More expensive alternatives 2WD Skoda Superb/VW Passat or the new Volvo PHEV range.

  • cyberyacht
    cyberyacht Forum Participant Posts: 10,218
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    edited November 2020 #41

    How far do they go though? It could take your whole holiday just to get somewhere.

  • JVB66
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    edited November 2020 #42

    I have seen at FM both a Mitsubishi phev and a Volvo hibrid and both advised that on Batt power would manage about 20miles before petrol engine cut in and powered car and charged Batt again about 25miles? both drivers said on ICE cars are quite thirsty ,both cars were charged via the caravan external sockets when on site

  • Oscarmax
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    edited November 2020 #43

    You are correct even the larger 13kW battery on our Outlander PHEV last about 22/23 miles in pure EV mode, however  the trick is to let the battery to deplete down to 80% then use the Charge Mode button and use B5  regenerative braking.

    This year we were achieving around 28mpg towing starting with a full charger over 178miles. You can charge using the external socket on site for £2.00 which takes about 5 hours to charge from depleted (10kW), because our PHEV draws 10 amps we set our timer to charge after midnight.

    What people need to understand the PHEV is not a replacement for a diesel it just an alternative, we only tow occasionally and most of our journeys are less than 30 miles,  if you are a serious tower or drive long distances regularly a PHEV is not for you.

  • JVB66
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    edited November 2020 #44

    There are two phevs in our road one is an early model? not sure as it has a private reg his problem is getting to charge it as he has to bring it to his house across a grassed area ,he does say the batt needs charging more recently