Bailey Unicorn III - road light bulbs

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edited October 2020 in Caravans #1

This is a bit of a long shot, but my caravan is up at the storeage, and I am sorting out my spare road lightbulbs which I keep in the car.  Now I seem to have so many light bulbs that I could open a lightbulb shop, but I don't particularly want to take a lightbulb shop with me in the back of the car.

By any chance does anyone have a list of the road light bulbs that fit the Unicorn 3 Valencia - 2016, to save me a journey up to storeage?  I guess they are pretty standard, but you know how it goes.... the bulb that goes, will inevitably be the one I haven't got.....  Not bothered about the ones inside - if one of these go, there are plenty left until I can get a replacement, but road lights are a bit more crucial....  I thought there might be a list in the handbook - but of course, there isn't.

Thanks in advance.....

David

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  • JVB66
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    edited October 2020 #2

    Hi David  our handbook which covers both our c/vans it statesas follows

    indicator 12v 21w clear

    stop/tail 12v 21/5w clear

    fog        12v 21w   clear

    reverse  12v 21w  clear

     handbook does not mention  what bulbs are for any marker lights or side (yellow lights) but supect they are LED 12v <1w as it states interior /other lights

    hope it helps

  • DSB
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    edited October 2020 #3

    Thanks JVB.  That's useful.  👍👍

    David

  • EmilysDad
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    edited October 2020 #4

    Assuming both your car & caravan use 21/5 watt stop/tail bulbs (some cars use electrickery to make 21w bulbs do both) as long as you have at least one of these as a spare you can always 'borrow' a fog light or reverse light bulb to use as an indicator bulb ..... flashing white instead of yellow is better than not flashing at all. The chances of towing in the fog are slim.

    I've carried a box of spare bulbs for years ... never yet had to use any. There again, some car bulbs need a week off work to fit so are never going to be changed at the road side or on site somewhere.

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2020 #5

    Bailey use coloured lenses

  • EmilysDad
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    edited October 2020 #6

    I'd gathered that as you only mentioned clear bulbs above .... I was talking in general terms.

  • Freedom a whitebox
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    edited October 2020 #7

    Top marker lights are 12v 5w 

    don’t forget number plate which are festoon - 5W ( I think )

    all lower markers are led

    Unless your tow vehicle is all led lights, I would imagine that you would find all the replacements you need in its spare bulb kit.

  • DSB
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    edited October 2020 #8

    Freedom a whitebox:  Do you happen to know if the marker lights are the capless sort?

    I think we have the rest sorted...

    Thanks everyone.  I found the lightbulb bit in the handbook in the end ..

    David

  • Freedom a whitebox
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    edited October 2020 #9

    Hi David, my Valencia 3 is the earlier version with full LED lighting (apart from the high level maker lights which for some reason had conventional bulbs in).
    All the exterior LED lighting including the lower marker lights (front clear and orange side markers) are sealed units.

    John

  • DSB
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    edited October 2020 #10

    Hi John.  I have a feeling that marker lights are a legal requirement, therefore, should one of the sealed units go, (the lower amber ones on my van), strictly speaking, I shouldn't tow the van with one of these lights out.  Therefore it follows that I should carry a spare......

    I think the chances of it going are remote, but if you travel to France - where I think you still should carry spare bulbs, it feels like it could be a slightly more expensive investment....

    David 

  • DSB
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    edited October 2020 #11

    I wonder how many folk carry these as a spare....

    https://www.primaleisure.com/product/1170065/amber-side-marker-led-light

    ......so if your light goes now, you have to wait until 11th December..... your grounded until then!!!

    David

  • EmilysDad
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    edited October 2020 #12

     Assuming you carry the part, will you be able to change it at the road side? Will you be carrying some kind of cleaner to clean the caravan of the glue form the original led? I recently changed the high level brake light on my caravan due to water ingress, ladders aside, I had to remake the wiring connections to the caravan because Coachman had just cut the original plug from the light unit & made the wiring connections with crimps, and of course glue/seal the lamp in position. AIUI (& I'm willing to be proved wrong) in France, you're only expected to replace bulbs that can be replaced without the use of tools, which means that many bulbs can not be replaced at the road side.

  • DSB
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    edited October 2020 #13

    That's useful to know EmilysDad.  I didn't know the bit about  "you're only expected to replace bulbs that can be replaced without the use of tools".  Interesting enough, I don't think I've ever changed a car lightbulb without some type of tool - even if it is just a screw driver.... 🙂

    I've never thought as much about light bulbs...  😀😀  I'm probably overthinking this.......

    ....the other thing is... many of the LED 'strips' have more than one LED.  I would have thought if just one LED went it wouldn't cause a problem...  No idea how many LEDs there are in the amber and the front markers....

    David

    Edit:  I tell a lie....  Years ago, I had a side light go on an old Discovery.  I was pulled over by a policeman who kindly pointed out the bulb had gone.  'No problem', said I, 'I have a spare... I'll change it'.  That involved me just putting my hand underneath the bumper.  I tried the bulb... the glass of the bulb broke and cut my hand to such an extent that I had to go to the local A&E.  The policeman's response.... 'Oh bl**dy hell...  I wished we'd never had pulled you up now..!'  😀😀😀    

    Ever since that episode, I have often called the Green Flag even to change a bulb.....

    I usually keep spares though.  Even if only to give to someone else to fit.... 😆😆

  • cyberyacht
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    edited October 2020 #14

    Wouldn't it be nice( come on singalong) if manufacturers/designers gave the installation of what is actually safety equipment a bit of thought when it comes to replacement of something as basic as a road light?

  • DSB
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    edited October 2020 #15

    You are absolutely correct CY.  It needs possible to replace all road lights easily at the roadside with minimum fuss by the driver of the vehicle, especially as they are a legal requirement.

    David

  • DSB
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    edited February 2021 #16

    Eventually, my new amber marker lights have arrived.  Apparently I can replace them just by using a screwdriver, which I'll do next time I go up to storeage. I ordered a spare, so that should absolutely guarantee I will never have another marker light go, ever!!... 😃😃

    Does anyone know if the top side marker lights on a Valencia 3 (12v5w) are capless bulbs or not i.e. are they W5W (501) or R5W (207) type.  I'm sure I probably have both somewhere, but I'd rather take just the correct one with me....

    David

  • Freedom a whitebox
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    edited February 2021 #17

    Hi David, these are the original ones from my Valencia.

    When I first got the caravan (from new) they were full of water. The dealer sorted the problem by sticking the lenses on with clear sealant and drilling a hole in the lenses. Not the best bodge as I had to replace them a few years later.

    I fitted LED Replacements bulbs in the new fittings, so that they matched all the other lamps fitted to the caravan and hopefully be longer lasting with the multiple LED’s ( mine being an early unicorn 3 with led rear lamps).

    The only issue that you may find ( if yours is also a earlier model ) is that if you have a motor mover fitted, you could discover that the cutout circuit has been wired through the side light wiring. LED’s will not pass enough current to operate the cutout. Normally they are wired through the caravan of brake lights, but have used the conventional bulbs fitted to these upper markers on the unicorns.

    This is not a major problem to solve and can be sorted by changing  wires over on the thirteen pin socket fixed to the van.

  • DSB
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    edited April 2021 #18

    Those look like R5W (207) bulbs (and not the capless W5W, 501's). One of the few bulbs I haven't got!!  Thanks for that... apologies for being so long in responding - hadn't spotted your post.  Many thanks.

    David