Has anyone had trouble with a Kampa air awning

JaneAng
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edited September 2020 in Parts & Accessories #1

We have a Kampa air awning which had a tube blow after 2 weeks and 2 days use.  Kampa weren’t interested but our supplier returned it for inspection.  We have photos to show the air tube was attached to the awning itself.  Kampa said this is impossible.  Reading Kampa reviews online  it looks like we aren’t the only ones to have trouble.  Has anyone else had this sort of experience?  We are heading to Trading Standards with this.

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  • richardandros
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    edited September 2020 #2

    I have to say your experience is the complete opposite from the customer service we have had from Kampa - which was outstanding.  I wonder if this is a reflection of them being bought out by Dometicsurprised

    Three Kampa awnings ago - our very first one - failed to inflate properly when we arrived on a site in Devon at the start of our two week holiday.  Phoned the dealer who went through all the various possible remedies - that didn't solve it.  Then got a phone call from the North of England Kampa Rep - same situation, couldn't solve it.  They then sent out a new replacement awning by overnight courier which was with us before 9am the following morning - all at their expense.

    (It subsequently turned out that all that was wrong was that the inflation valve hadn't been tightened up sufficiently - which no one had suggested during the phone calls)

    We are now on our third Kampa awning which is over two years old - used every month and never had a problem with it.

  • Rufs
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    edited September 2020 #3

    sat in our Kampa air 390 just now in sunny Devon, it is 4/5 years old, looks a bit tatty as they do fade but it has spent a lot of time in sunny Spain in some very hot sun and temperatures.

    Had a leg fail whilst in Spain, unfortunatly it was the leg containing the inflator position so whole awning out of action, and this is a concern, Kampa say you can operate awning by isolating individual legs but does not work if main leg with inflation goes AWOL, but Kampa shipped new leg via DHL to campsite in Spain and we were up and running within 5 days. I think the blow out was probably my fault, when temperatures are high you need to reduce the pressure, right now it is set for 9 PSI, would only use 8 PSI if very hot.

  • Rufs
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    edited September 2020 #4

    We have photos to show the air tube was attached to the awning itself. Kampa said this is impossible.

    sat looking at mine and i also can not see how they achieved this. the inflatable bladders are encased in a canvas type zipped sleeve which in turn has an inner protective cover that holds the bladder that is inflated. Yes the outer sleeve is attached to the awning but all the rest is contained within the zipped outer sleeve and should be removable in the event of a blow out, and simply replaced with new part

  • JaneAng
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    edited September 2020 #5

    Thank you for your comments.  We checked the other tubes which were removable but the one that blew was attached which was presumably why it exploded! We also have a Kampa porch awning which we are very pleased with.  

  • Rhodesp
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    edited September 2020 #6

    We have a Kampa Air Ace 400 which was purchased in April 2018. We were in North Devon on the 14th Sept 2020 when the main bladder (with the air inlet) in the awning exploded ripping the bladder protective cover at the same time. As it was outside the two year warranty we had to purchase a new bladder and protective cover from Kampa for a total cost of £140. 
    These arrived quickly within two days but after fitting the new ones and blowing the awning up to 5 PSI the main bladder burst again in exactly the same place. Very frustrated, now waiting for a second replacement bladder under warranty. 
    I shall be going back to our pole awning if this continues!!

  • JVB66
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    edited September 2020 #7

    Replacement tubes for air awnings and tents are best sellers at our local camping storesurprised

  • Rhodesp
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    edited September 2020 #8

    I forgot to add that our Air Ace 400 was the second one of the same type to explode that day!

  • Rufs
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    edited September 2020 #9

    Not my experience, although mine is a 390 the principal is the same and still sat in mine as is the guy up the way with is 400 and he has been on site since beginning of March, seasonal pitch, they let him stay and he is still here.

  • Tirril
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    edited September 2020 #10

    I have had the Kampa Air 330 for 2 years and like it very much. I bought the auto electric air pump and from a series of trials have kept reducing the PSI to less than half the the range given in the instruction manual. I find that just 4.5 PSI gives good shape and stability and yet provides a much greater safety margin to the risks of bursts (especially when the sun gets hot). If you use a hand pump then just inflate to the point where you can get a slight depression in the tube when pinching with your fingers. There is no need to have it absolutely taut.

  • JaneAng
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    edited September 2020 #11

    It sounds a similar age to ours purchased Sept 2018 but only used for the first time July 2019 and the second time July 2019.  I have read the Kampa reviews online and they are terrible.  I don’t think we are the only ones with an issue.

  • Rufs
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    edited September 2020 #12

    Have to report, i am still sat in mine, had blazing sunshine, last night torrential rain and wind, but all ok, still stood up, just one small drip in the corner. Have to agree with others i think keeping the pressure to 9 or below is the way forward especially if the sun is up.laughing

  • JVB66
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    edited September 2020 #13

    Two air awnings at Morn Hill had tubes explode within minutes of each other(frightened our dog,) both on adjacent pitches in hot sun ,

    It sound by posts on here is that some try to make air awnings as solid as conventional poles, ,which causes the tubes to be at too high a pressure to cope with the heat we are now experiencing at times in this country

    I have noticed  recently that air awnings do seem to have many more guy ropes than needed with conventional pole awnings to keep them from moving ,is that enable lower pressures to be used?

  • EmilysDad
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    edited September 2020 #14

    It's only recently that I've inflated my Kampa awning with a compressor that shows the pressure. I've set the pressure to just 6 psi and the awning is rigid enough .... I'd imagine that 9 would be more than enough 🤷‍♂️

    As far as guy ropes, my awning (400?) has just 4 across the front with the option to fit storm straps on each top corner. https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61KEv2dVKML._AC_SX355_.jpg

  • JVB66
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    edited September 2020 #15

    By your picture it may be the shape of the air awnings that will need more guy ropes ? ps 4 is still more than the zero normally needed on conventional awningswink

  • EmilysDad
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    edited September 2020 #16

     ... ps 4 is still more than the zero normally needed on conventional awningswink

    Mmm? I'd contest that 🤔😉

  • JVB66
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    edited September 2020 #17

    we have never used any guy ropes on any of our awnings  just the ground level pegging only,  rarely needed a storm strapsmile

    i note also with your guy rope fitting more space on a pitch in neededsurprised

  • scoutman
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    edited September 2020 #18

    Whilst I am not doubting others may have experienced problems with air awnings from many manufacturers, we have not. How many suffered damage or failure of poled awnings in the past? In more than 30 yrs of caravaning, I have seen multiple steel or ally poles bent, twisted or causing damage to caravan bodies, fiberglass poles cracked like carrots, but not yet been on a site where an airpole has exploded. Maybe we have been fortunate, others not so. Look around any site nowadays and the majority are air awnings, Kampa probably the greatest number then Vango. Our Kampa air awning has stood steady in temperatures from -5C in UK winters to +38C in French summers. Inflated to the recommended 9psi at 20degC the pressure will only increase to about 10.5psi at 40degC, well within the safety margin of testing of 22psi by the manufacturer. Of course I recognise that those experiencing problems will be most likely to complain loudest but are they the majority?, of course not.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited September 2020 #19

    The small porch awning we had also had guy ropes. I can't see how you can NOT use any as the awning would then be free to be lifted up by any wind that got inside it.

    We have pegged out on the green strip before now .... surprised

  • JVB66
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    edited September 2020 #20

    It is called being pegged down properlywink

  • EmilysDad
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    edited September 2020 #21

    and on some club sites that's impossible as the hard standing is either like concrete or that loose the pegs won't stay in the ground .... had both

  • JVB66
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    edited September 2020 #22

    The right kit is what is needed so we must be on the right track, as have not had a problem  on both HS and Grass,,and i think over the years we have been on more sites than manycool

  • davetommo
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    edited September 2020 #23

    I have always in 35 years of caravaning used isabella poled awnings and never used guy ropes. I have only once used the storm straps which fit to the poles. That was this August on the Isle of Wight when the wind got to 60mph, I did it to be on the safe side

  • EmilysDad
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    edited September 2020 #24

    I think I was having a senior moment re pegging out embarassed