Range Rover Evoque views please
Hello everyone.
Does anyone tow a Series 4 Bailey Unicorn Cabrera with a Range Rover Evoque?
Just interested in your views & experience if you do.
Yes I do know it's over the 85% rule but I'm curious nonetheless.
Thank You.
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The Evoque sits on a modified Freelander2 platform which in turn is used for the Disco Sport so its towing abilities are similar. Use the Tow Car web site to check weights (the club matching service is rubbish) and look at the details on the V5. The ‘rule’ that matters in respect of towing weights is compliance with the law - there is no reference in law to towing weight ratio.
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We seen lots of Evoques being towed, mainly by breakdown trucks and transporters. They give a whole new meaning to the term “off road”. Sorry Pliers, you seem to have got a good one!😁
We left the LR brand years ago. They are not the vehicles they once were. Happy to have an old one though. Friends of ours have stuck loyally with LR, but their last FL2 had an awful lot of time in and out of dealers. They purchased extended warranty just for peace of mind.
A personal view, admittedly.
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Unfortunately my experience isn’t good with LR products and my stepsons is mixed. My FL2 was problematic compounded by indifferent dealers in the UK and abroad so I went back to VAG products. My stepson has had a number of Range Rovers (Vogue, Sport and 2 Evoques) in his family. Neither Evoque has been great and one so bad he refused to sell me his partners Evoque Overfinch (which was fantastic to drive), unfortunately it had a monthly pass to the local dealers to see how quickly it could empty his wallet. The Beemer X2 replacement is 100% reliable.....
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As a match I would not choose it, for reliability I would not choose it.
Products from Hyundai/Kia are significantly more reliable, and BMW and VAG products both ahead in my opinion.
Driving and finish they are very good but I value reliability above all other.
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All these Landrover and Rangerover knockers I wonder if there is a tinge of jealousy? I am on my 6th Discovery, all have been totally reliable and only one had a non standard repair bill needing two suspension dampers after 5 years of heavy work. There are few cars which can come anywhere near them for towing ability. Just look at how many years the Discovery has won the Tow Car of the Year top place. The Discovery Sport has slightly better towing limits and much more room so I would prefer it over the Evoque. You see plenty posters on this site asking for solutions to towing issues from other brands (even large SUVs) but Landrover/RR are just made to tow. Once you have had one you will be reluctant to consider any other tow car.
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Not jealous at all. As I said we have owned a total of six LR cars, including Range Rover, Defender, Discovery. All bar one were superb for what we needed them for, towing horse boxes and caravans, off roading, camping holidays. Our dismay set in with a Freelander, the important bits spent most of its time with us on the garage floor, leaving us with a quite nicely designed car but only two wheel drive. It’s was shockingly unreliable, never away from dealer. We actually traded it on one of its good days for a Jeep Patriot, which was a stunning car. That’s where our love affair with LR ended in divorce. They are not built like they used to be. We realised we could get so much more for our money, and better reliability.
Edit: I can’t post a photo of our new car, but I think you would like it. Copperhead Jeep Wrangler Unlimited, very niche, but a real off road vehicle. 😁
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Jealousy, why.
The vehicles I suggested all retail at higher price than the Evoque. If you mean we are not impressed by tarty badges and having smoke blown up my jacksi, then yes, guilty.
You are obviously brand loyal and nobody will convince you that they have been superseded in many respects. You have not lived with anything else and no doubt you count the salesman and service manager as your chums, and they love you.
For the record I love the JLR brands and really want their product, they are innovative, dive beautifully, and are pretty, yes even the one with the offset rear plate, I like it. I will never own one as I have too many friends who have had truly terrible product from them.
For reference, some light reading, say it all really.
https://www.whatcar.com/news/2018-what-car-reliability-survey/n17821
https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-6134061/The-cars-depend-revealed.html
https://www.buyacar.co.uk/cars/478/most-reliable-cars-rated-by-jd-power-uk
Hint, scan to the bottom.
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Is there any significance in the fact that those extolling JLR products appear to have had multiple models. Are they being swapped before they develop problems or because they have done so?
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Quite possibly CY. My stepson is, despite a less than satisfactory ownership experience of RR products informs me this morning he is probably going to replace his utterly reliable but impractical Maserati with an SVR RR Sport this month. Second choice is a Cayenne Coupe. My FL2 was the best car for towing ability i have owned however aforementioned reliability, poor build, fit and finish simply did not cut it for me. I wanted to buy the Evoque but the magnetic attraction to the local dealers workshop was unacceptable for me. The Audi A6 and Passat Alltrack owned since my FL2 excursion were both reliable, bought well used and both exceeded or are exceeding mileages significantly north of 100k. The Audi was sold at 187k miles still going strong....
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When you go to the motorhome and caravan show at the NEC, what vehicle is used to give towing lessons at the front of the show. It's not Land/Range Rover.
As for the tow car of the year awards, the manufacturer sends the vehicles not the club asking for them, and how can they give awards when not every car on the market is tested.0 -
Thanks everyone for your input.I I've read them all but was really keen to hear from those who have or are towing with an Evoque. Thanks to those who have. 😀 I have towed for 5 years with a Freelander 2 which has never once had any problems or let me down but I now need an automatic car for slogging on motorways on business solo and for towing infrequently. I can't afford top end Mercs, Jags etc and the Evoque gets good reviews for towing. Every car brand has reliability issues in some form or another. For every one who loves X Y or Z brand there will be another who's got 10 horror stories about it. If you actually tow with an Evoque or have towed with it, good or bad I'm interested to hear from you. Cheers all. Written from my lovely caravan towed here without incident by a rubbish Landrover brand car. 😂 😉
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Well said. Not sure why people believe this drivel purporting to be reliability surveys, I have never been asked to partake in one nor has anyone I know. I suspect it is a way of justifying the purchase of a foreign built vehicle and that people who purchase these vehicles generally have lower expectations, witness the number of people on Club Together that are happy with sub standard tow bar wiring and the need for extra cooling etc on so called top end vehicles.
I remember years ago when the Nissan Terrano and Ford Maverick were manufactured on the same production line in Spain, the same vehicle with minor trim differences, the Press of the day consistently rated the Nissan version higher in all these surveys because it was perceived to be Japanese.
These unreliable surveys have not changed.3 -
The vast majority of the income for JD Powers is derived from the vehicle manufacturers contracting them to do reliability and marketing surveys on their behalf. Why would they do this if as you claim it is all fictitious and a conspiracy.
Also if these were not the views of genuine owners then why don't the vehicle manufacturers sue the hell out of them for publishing false and damaging information about their product? They publish it as fact not opinion.
People who buy foreign vehicles generally have lower expectations, this just confirms your knowledge of the automotive industry really is zero.
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And What Car, Which and others use readers for survey data source material. However back to the OP. I have seen lots of FL2’s and Disco Sports towing but only recall one Evoque so you might struggle to get the response you seek. Given however the Evoque is fundamentally a poshed up FL2 i do not see the problem. Where i struggle with your logic is saying you cannot afford high end cars such as Mercs and Jags! A Jag EPace sits on modified Evoque platform, is in a similar price bracket and a GLA Merc competes with the Evoque as does a Beemer X2. Have you actually looked at their prices?
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For all those who have never seen an Evoque towing anything, here's a photo of ours pitched up at beautiful St Jean Pied de Port a couple of years ago.
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I recently purchased a used Discovery Sport as a tow car. Whilst researching tow cars I obtained brochures and read the details of the Evoque. I was surprised when comparing the Evoque and Disco Sport most Evoque models had poor tow weights compared to the Disco.
Unfortunately I recently cleared out the brochures so cannot reference them.
Why not look on the LR website and look at the technical details tab of a used Evoque or look out the model details of the new ones.
https://used.landrover.co.uk/model-range-rover-evoque#/details/2971991
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Hi everyone, well I took the plunge and have now towed over 1500 miles in the Evoque and its been great.
A real pleasure to tow again with an automatic and nice and solid on the road despite the heavy van. It's really gutsy and with better acceleration and speed than the Freelander and delivering anywhere between 25 and 28 mpg which I'm really pleased with.
Perhaps the small boot and non flat folding rear seat is why caravanners are deterred but for me using it as an everyday business car as well as the tug it's ideal...and also means I dont take so much useless stuff with me!
Thanks for your help and I thought I would round off the post by saying I'm well happy with it as a towcar and to provide a little comfort for those who may be considering buying one to tow.
Enjoy your vehicles, whatever you have.
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I had a freelander 2 for 5 years all it ever needed in that time apart from regular servicing just like all cars, was 4 new tyres. If they still made them I would have another one. Before anyone says I was lucky before that I had a freelander 2, and 2 freelander 1’s. Every one trouble free.
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Glad you’re pleased with the new car, though you would be!
Will look out for you on our travels.
And here’s another photo of ours, pitched up on a very nice campsite in Cantabria.
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Looks a nice combination, hope it gives you all you need.😁
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In response to your question we do tow with a 2018 Range Rover Evoque, 2ltr 150 bhp.
Pulling power great, large mirror great for reversing, comfort excellent.
We arrived on site having driven in some strong winds on Friday evening with no problems.
Our Swift weight is 1450kg.
Would we get another evoque, yes we would with the only alternative for us being the Discovery Sport. For us nothing compares in this segment.
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I can only speak from experience of a freelander and a disco sport. Both excellent towcars and virtually trouble-free. A friend has a discovery which so far has behaved impeccably over 65k miles. Only complaint is that LR dealers are expensive, although their service has always been good. I have towed a Bailey Olympus, Bailey Unicorn series 3 and a Coachman VIP 575 with these vehicles.
So much depends on how one drives and looks after a car. Over the years, I have made my own mind up about which cars appeal to me. Among them were a Rover 820 (slated for reliability) which was excellent over 80k miles and a mercedes E-Class which rusted, experienced collapsed front suspension and which I eventually sold after spending a fortune trying unsuccessfully trying to have turbo-lag cured. I am wary of those who are pedantic about which makes are invariably reliable and which are not.
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