Possible blocker on touring for the elderly?
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I could spend a couple of hours on a bus to Bristol with no less risk.
Probably more risk but you probably have no desire to spend 2 hours on a bus to Bristol.
There are likely to be a few that contract Covid19 on a plane, why would there not be? I cannot see that being a reason that any airline would be out of business. I would be surprise if somebody has not contracted Covid on an Arriva bus but they are not out of business. If a few on a flight contract Covid there is nothing to say that it was not contracted on a transfer bus at the destination airport.
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I agree with all you have said Mike, we have done the same. If government had any idea what a touring caravan (or MH) holiday was like they would have to agree how safe it can be. It seems this virus is with us for the long haul, no vaccine for a year, or so, even then it may not be effective. We must get on with what life we have left and just be extra cautious. Personally I don’t feel I can spend what time I have left doing nothing and going nowhere just incase I might catch something, be that a cold, flu, or Covid. Yes I am still very careful where we go and what we do, and I am still washing the shopping etc. but I can’t see how going away in my own space is likely to put me or others at increased risk.
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Important point about all of this is that most of these government statements are GUIDANCE, not LAW. You make your own decisions based on your attitude to risk and personal circumstances. I dont tihnk for a minute any policeman is going have the legal power to force over 50's to stay at home on pain of prosecution!
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Just returned from our first trip since lock down. Being aware of the new 13.00 booking in time we arrived later in the afternoon. I'm wondering why we bothered, nobody else seemed to, including the wardens who booked them in early each day. I imagine actions such as the the later booking in time, reduced shower availability and single entry to the site office are all part of a raft of measures to keep us all safe and healthy. Nobody should be able to cherry pick which rules they're going to apply. If , god forbids, a COVID-19 outbreak is traced back a CC site the whole network will be closed down again I'm sure.
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Seems very strange- masses of people here in North Wales. However the two local tourist and camping sites are not open for such. The statics are open. The massive site at Shel Island is closed for the rest of the year. The CMC site near Llanbrynmair was also closed earlier this week. Where are they all staying? As an elderly I am too scared to go out after self isolating for so long. and seeing the way particularly youngsters are behaving with raves in our forests and no social responsibility on our beaches.
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I don’t think the stupidity is confined to Wales Fish. It’s across the UK, not just your forests and beaches getting abused.........😁
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Fish, you should try Devon & Cornwall. Wales is not select in this.
How have we drifted from the suggested lockdown of us oldies to the current state of affairs in tourist hot spots?🤷🏻♂️0 -
If Fish thinks Welsh forests are a risk, take a look at this............🤣
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The A303 was jammed with holiday traffic going to the south west today. We were trying to get to Wincanton so made a long detour there and back. Average age of car occupants, twenties, thirties and forties, tucking into the fast food at the services. Much busier than usual (and it's usually very busy!) I presume because many aren't going abroad. Hope they've got somewhere to go.
Let's hope older people can escape after the crowds have gone home.
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The official advice is not to travel to Cornwall unless you have booked.
Meanwhile, on Dartmoor, wild camping and overnight parking has been banned and marshalls empowered to issue fines will be patrolling.
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I havent been following this thread but have just popped in for a look.
The thread starts with "I know its only something in the paper" etc.
What are these restrictions which apply to the elderly?
We are elderly I suppose and have been shielding since mid March, until last week when we started doing a bit of shopping etc. We abide by all the guidance and laws (in Wales we have some laws which are inforcable). We will be going out for our first camping trip shortly (abroad to England) and will continue to abide by all guidance and laws. We find the whole idea of identifying different groups of people funny - well hysterical to be more precise. Should we all have badges to show our age and medical dispositions?
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Great pictures. Beware though you may have a problem closer to home. From the papers it appears that a certain Mr Goldsmith has released wild boars in Dorset. This is the same person that after lobbying cash at Minister Gove's constituency was made a member of DEFRA( Department for Farming and Rural Affairs) board, the very same board who made such an act illegal. Nice to know that Nepotism is rife within our Government.
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We had a week at a very nice site near Glastonbury from 25th July. Took a couple of days worth of food, bought some basic local supplies from the site shop (order from the door or click & collect using an App), including eggs from the hens on site, bought additional bread and meat from the baker and butcher in town, used the takeaway options (Fish & chips, wood fired pizza), a couple of lunches out, and generally supported the local economy.
We had a trip to Wells and visited the cathedral and Bishop’s Palace & gardens, lunch outside in the Market Square.
Took a ride on the East Somerset Railway. A compartment booked to ourselves (as with all other visitors), and some tea and very nice cake afterwards.
We had lunch inside a coffee shop in Glastonbury another day (temperature check, hand sanitiser, contact details and a table allocated and separated from other diners), and a visit to Glastonbury Abbey on the final day.
At all times we were socially distanced and I felt completely safe. We have another two trips booked in September and October, further restrictions permitting, and I don’t have any anxieties about going.
Oops! Maybe a bit off topic but, for the record, I’m 60 and happy to be going out and about whilst being sensible.
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All the sorts of things we used to do and looked forward to doing but now feel uncomfortable doing and I appreciate it will put severe limitation on the enjoyment we are likely to get from our hobby, probably this side of Christmas and into early next year. We have been away once and have booked again for September. Both sites where we could be independent and self contained. Only being away four days at a time we can be self sufficient as far as food is concerned. We are in our mid seventies and probably feel, real or imagined, more vulnerable. Glad for those that can go away and enjoy themselves.
David
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Very difficult for us at the moment with all of the visitors here. Our son and family visited us last week, first time we have seen them since February. They agreed previously that they would try to avoid the busiest places in order to protect us. We did go out with them one day to Lynmouth, big mistake. We had to mask up walking outside as sooo busy. We quickly retreated to walk by the river. We have been to a quiet beach the locals use and plenty of space there, but the others are jam packed. Eating out was a no no, except once as a family member runs the restaurant and assured us a quiet table. All full due to Boris offering cheaper meals, in my opinion that would have been better offered in September as most places here are busy in August anyway. So we are back to walking locally. We may go to our static van in Stratford to avoid the hoards, and for a change of scenery. On the local tv last night saying Cornwall and Devon are full. It does feel like it.
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We aren’t tempted to go away at the moment. Having the odd carefully planned day out, well away from others. I am sincerely hoping that all the children get back into school, and then we shall do some research as to where we fancy going. It won’t be anywhere busy. We are self sufficient little souls beyond the odd pint of milk.
My one and only venture out to a “tourist” venue went very well. EH garden, booked in advance, numbers controlled, very good measures in place. Will try a few more like this. We don’t mind walking to a beach, so hopefully can find somewhere less crowded. Other than that we will be happy walking, cycling, hopefully swimming, and chilling out on a small site somewhere.
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Around 70 people attended the barbecue at The Soho Foundry Tavern in Smethwick last Sunday and three have since tested positive for COVID-19, Sandwell Council said.
when you see headlines like this, it is not the elderly they should be locking up, it is the pub doors
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We are currently on our last night of four on the Welsh coast. We've cycled and walked and avoided any crowded space, which has generally been easy to do even with part of yesterday's walk being along a beach. The nearest we came to anyone was when Mrs WN stood in a well observed socially distanced queue for ice cream from a Mr.Whippy van. The vendor had gloves and mask on and washed his hands after each transaction. As we had a tub rather than cone we didn't feel threatened.
Once again it comes down to the individuals around you. There are places I wouldn't visit at the moment just because the tourists appear selfish, an adjective one can apply to some parts of the country's locals.
We have a meal booked for the 3 of us in our "local" on Tuesday, late lunch, having been informed by a good judge and near neighbour that all precautions are more than adequate.
Up to each one to judge each situation. Most posters on here seem to understand the need for the regulations and the need to adhere to them. It's the selfish ones you have to be wary of.
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Nothing like a bit of local research/knowledge to avoid the crowds. Generally all that’s needed is to walk a few miles to places - most visitors don’t make the effort. It helps if the walking route is a bit strenuous and as nature intended. A couple of recent examples:
Devon - camp in Salcombe Regis, busy rural site but nothing exciting on the doorstep, therefore most folks go out for the day in the car/van or just sunbathe. However, walk to the small village and through fields to the beach (approx 1.5 miles and 200 steps down to beach) and on a warm sunny weekend we’re 2 of 6 people on the large shingle beach.
Walk 2 miles to Sidmouth along the stunning SW coast path, meet just a handful of walkers and arrive in Sidmouth to absolute bedlam. It was like stepping out of one world into another. Quick retreat back!
This weekend in Sennen Cove, no heatwave here but beaches & car parks all full. However, using local map, follow route across fields and along coastal path from campsite to Sennen Village (approx 2.5 miles) and hardly see a soul unless we cross paths from car parks to the beach. Sennen itself was relatively quiet as there’s little of interest to most visitors . Most people are here to enjoy the beach and surf. We enjoyed a beer and sandwich sat outside a cafe, no queuing involved. However, go 200 yards down the road to the beach and the queue at the only beach bar and car park persisted all day.
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Yes, but I was rewarded with this
One of the side effects of having a MH is that get good at walking
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We are in our mid seventies and probably feel, real or imagined, more vulnerable
Like you David we too are in our mid 70s but do not feel any more vulnerable than the majority of the rest of the general public. We are now into our third week and on our 4th site of our current trip, and apart from one very pleasant day out walking with friends we've not been in contact with any one else for more than a few minutes. We've visited a few NT properties, walked canal footpaths, wandered through woods and fields and everywhere the people we've met have endeavour to keep a respectable distance apart. Even when shopping for essentials the people we've seen have been wearing masks and keeping socially distanced.
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I am well into my late 70s, but trying to keep positive as well as safe. Cannot be putting life "on hold" for too long,
This week we will be back "on duty" looking after little Callum 2 afternoons per week, but we are being very careful when doing essential shopping, and will not be eating out anywhere for a good while yet. We never have gone to pubs.
The places we have been shopping, the face coverings rule is being pretty well observed, but it is the younger generation that are not being so careful.
We have just booked 28 nights away in late September/October, including a few days visiting some friends in Wales. Just hope the weather will be reasonable
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Its very much retreat to our Isolation here. Masses of visitors, no social distancing, rowdy crowds and no parking. Barmouth closed by 10.30 am both Sat and Sunday. Roll on September when the masses should be back at work ( some hope) and if Boris stands up to the teaching unions the schools will be open. Perhaps then we will venture out.
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