Possible blocker on touring for the elderly?

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  • Takethedogalong
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    edited August 2020 #33

    Plus 10! It’s a trade off that you have to make for yourself, and Government by sound bite and back of a fag packet doesn’t work for us either. 

  • JVB66
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    edited August 2020 #34

    But then it seems many other countries who thought they had the answer on  how to control the virus   , have all come to realise the learning curve is still as steep 

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  • brue
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    We have relatives in Canada, NZ and Australia, our relatives in the Melbourne area are under a second, tougher lockdown. Our Canadian relatives are trying to emerge, like us, but gingerly and I doubt if we'll be seeing each other anytime soon. It gets sadder as you get older, I remember seeing Canadian family and friends for the last time as they aged and got infirm, now it seems like our turn! NZ is a case on it's own, they've succeeded because no-one is going anywhere except NZ!

    Abroad isn't on my wish list at all, I'd really like to see our family and friends here. Looks like we might see friends before family which is a bit strange. Our youngest grandson was excited today when I said we might be seeing him in September (it's his birthday today.)

    I'm just keeping my fingers crossed for September!!

    Do hope you all manage to see your "revised" plans through for this year.

  • Goldie146
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    edited August 2020 #38

    We've had 10 days booked at New England Bay for a few weeks (booked when sites seemed to be filling up). Until this weekend I've been undecided whether to go or not. I've got the 72 hours cancel date highlighted on the calendar. But my husband is worn out and needs a rest. He doesn't complain but I know he wants some  days off work. If we are at home he feels he has to get up to milk, and I'm always there to to keep paperwork ticking over, and answer questions about the business. The house is our home, but it's also the hub of the farm business. No one comes in - all done through the doorway.

    So we're planning to go. Today I went out for the first time in a month (click and collect put into the boot by the shop), and I need to get some confidence back. I don't want to shop when we're away, but may have to. Taking food (and drink!) for over a week takes a bit of planning.

    But first, there's stones to pick off the ploughing, grass to be reseeded and rolled etc. Bill payments to be scheduled for when we're away. Cakes to be made st.

    Sorry for the long waffle!

  • Wherenext
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    edited August 2020 #39

    You sound like you need one as well as Mr.G, Goldie. Take it, relax and try to enjoy. Agree with you about planning food for a long break in the caravan. Our fridge wouldn't be big enough for a 10 dayer, just about ok for 4 or 5, depending how much we can get into the freezer.

    Good luck. Hope no sudden disaster at home stops you from going.

  • InaD
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    edited August 2020 #40

    I read the same, and I'm sure that age group is in addition to the over 70's group, not just the 50-70 age group.  Wouldn't make any sense really, having had a lot of the over 70s shielding for the past 4 months.  I also read that they could be given personalised risk ratings, taking into account factors like age and medical history.

    I hope nobody is going to spoil the plans we have for September either.  Got a couple of CLs booked and looking forward to it.

  • Goldie146
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    We can get home in 3.5 hours if we have to - and I don't think/hope there would be anything that was more urgent than that.

    I've downloaded some stuff from Iplayer onto my Ipad, and checked there's a lot of unread books on my Kindle, and booked a Morrisons delivery for just before we go, so with a following wind we'll be OK

  • Whittakerr
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    edited August 2020 #42

    Well i'm going away for 20 nights starting next week. Obviously i'll be taking all sensible precautions, but i will be enjoying myself as well.

    As all other sensible people i will follow government guidance as well as my own common sense, which is probably over and above the guidance.

       

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  • brue
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    edited August 2020 #44

    WTG. Oh dear, yes that's true, all the more reason to make the best of what we can do!

    Goldie, we managed to survive 6 days with our own food but also had an outdoor pub meal (all items used were disposable, served in cardboard boxes etc,  so well organised.) I had a food delivery the day before we left, stocked up on milk from the milkman. Had to visit a community shop towards the end of the break, one at a time in the shop, more milk and a magnum or two...well it was warm! smile

  • dave the rave
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    Feel free to help yourself to some of mine but please leave enough for me to deal with rude,shouty peopletongue-out

  • robsail
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    Just back from Killin, shopped at the Coop, a change of scene is as good as rest so they say! Having been in lockdown since February due partially to ill health, acting  as carer to wife and son who lost their respite,  I think we have done our bit! Time for golfers, cyclists and children to do their bit if we are all in this together as we are told! lockdown the people who got released early!

     Hopefully this Boris dream will be stopped at the border.

  • InaD
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    edited August 2020 #48

    Glad to hear your current trip is going well, reassuring to read things like that.  We put off going away until September, also to a quiet/less busy part of the country and within very easy travelling distance from home, should we have to do so.

    We're the same: we'll be living our lives the same as we have done at home for the last 4+ months, except we'll be somewhere different, and able to walk and cycle in a different area. 

    We've missed not going away, but saying that, have also enjoyed very much watching birdlife in our back garden, which we never normally see as much, so there have been some compensations wink

    Enjoy the rest of your trip.

  • redface
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    edited August 2020 #49

    Can't the national grocers deliver orders to site to save carting the victuals halfway up or down the country?

    If I can get home deliveries why not to a club site and meet the delivery van in car park or even allow delivery to pitches?

    The wardens know which pitch you are on and can advise the driver.

  • Rufs
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    It would be pretty disasterous if us oldies were (sacrifised) put into lock down again, and although our caravan is still parked up alongside the bungalow, we do have trip planned to Spain early September, but you only need to read the global press to see how this virus has not gone away by a long shot, governents good or bad it doesnt care.

    so everything for us is in abeyance, but if another lock down was required for the OAP's to ensure my Gkids could return to school on the 1st Sept this is a sacrfice i would be prepared to make. Our childrens future is more important than going away in our caravan. Lliving where we live this is perhaps not such a hard decision for us as for some, but yes it would be tough, but always another time another place. 

     

  • JohnM20
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    edited August 2020 #51

    Looking at the numbers of new positive Covid cases in Derbyshire, 75% of them were in people in their 40's. Whilst walking about I've seen that it is the older generation that are considerate and are careful passing others whilst the younger ones, (teenagers and 20 somethings) seem as though they couldn't care less and just barge past others. Social distancing obviously doesn't apply to them.

    As a classic example really close to home, my neighbour's 42 year old daughter, husband, 2 year old child and two week old baby have had to come and live with her parents as they are between moving house. The daughter goes out frequently to see and mix with friends and a couple of days ago the husband jumped in a car with two others others to go out for the day. They then come home to her 70 year old parents without any apparent care.

  • JVB66
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    edited August 2020 #52

    Food deliveries are now allowed to a desigmated point on sites, but not to your pitch,

  • Rufs
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    edited August 2020 #53

    This is happening all over the country, and it does seem to be the younger generation who are not abiding by the rules, but look what happens today....£10 voucher to spend in any participating restaurant, yes this was perhaps a good idea to kick the start the economy when it was first advertised, but today we have in the region of 3.5m people in lock down and possibly more on the way, so why encourage people now to go out to restaurants, surely initiatives like these should have been put on hold as the situation changes.undecidedI would expect Boris to cancel this before he announces locking us oldies up yell

  • EasyT
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    edited August 2020 #54

    I cannot see for one moment age related lowdown being imposed in the UK. Advised maybe. 

     

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited August 2020 #55

    ET, why do you see it lessened to advised as opposed to an order🤷🏻‍♂️. Won’t a 2nd wave have the same negative impact on the NHS?

  • Rufs
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    edited August 2020 #56

    the government know that as with most things they have brought into being we just do not have the Police presence to enforce most of it, however, interestingly in an article i read yesterday written by an Asian dignatry from Leicester, he said that since the army had been engaged within Leicester during the present lock down predominately at the testing stations, people had started to be better behaved, and started adhering to the rules, interesting.undecided

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  • Justus2
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    edited August 2020 #58

    Does the article from the paper in question not use terms such as "could be asked to" and "possible measures"

    In my book pure speculation from a newspaper with little actual fact to back it up. As ever the press and media spend too much time expressing opinions or speculating and too little time reporting actual news.

  • heddlo
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    edited August 2020 #59

    We feel the same about going away.  We have done one trip to a non facility site, it was surprisingly busy but we had no issue keeping away from others and felt quite safe.  We met our family in a local NT parkland, all with little contact with others.  In September, and hopefully October, we aim to be away to other no facilities sites, where we will do our ‘own thing’ hobbies etc, but away in the caravan for a change of scene.  Hopefully we can take enough food to avoid much shopping.  We will have days out with a picnic in the moors and other quiet areas, which we have been doing from home anyway.  I think, sadly, winter maybe long and hard Covidwise so a couple of breaks now will help. 

     

     

     

  • EasyT
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    edited August 2020 #60

    Quite simple if I am advised I make my own decisions as to what I consider safe. 

    As an example we went round to our neighbour last week for tea and cake and a couple of hours natter. We sat apart in the garden on a hot day. If advised I would make the same decision. Although in that instance I might well do the same regardless as for me nothing would really change. Trips out have been to shop, pick stuff up at garden centres or B&Q. Where I shop social distancing is being practised as it was in lockdown here in Wales. In lockdown I still shopped. So for me little change of consequence. 

    My eldest and her boyfriend will visit later this morning. Me and Fliss will sit outside to talk with them, socially distanced which I would do regardless of any age related order. As we are not mingling with the public nothing would change in reality with regard to risk.

  • brue
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    edited August 2020 #61

    Yes agreed. But the fact is the age vulnerability still exists so anyone in this group will have to be more covid aware.