Possible blocker on touring for the elderly?
I know it's only something in the paper. However, often these sort of things are leaked to gauge reaction. No indication on what is considered elderly, might we sneak through at 68.😂 If it came to pass it would certainly put the brakes on Autumn touring. I wouldn't think it would do the economy any favours either, as when the schools go back is when the senior generations normally come out to play.
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Seems to be looking at the problem from the wrong end of the telescope. Evidence, such as it is, suggests younger people and some ‘cultural communities’ are more likely to drive infection rates upwards than a few old fogies enjoying their twilight years.
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Does not surprise me, after watching news reports today re areas such as Dorset/Devon/Cornwall where locals are afraid to go shopping due to overcrowding, my caravan stays on the hardstanding next to my bungalow for the foreseeable future and i dont need any government legislation to make me do this, even our planned trip over there is looking to be on very shaky ground.
what we are seeing out and about in these areas is madness, but i was hoping that come September when the schools go back and some folk back to work things may calm down a little and allow some safe touring in the UK, but not holding my breath and who wants to take out the caravan and have to sit on site to be safe may as well stay at home.
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I don’t own a LV but I’m with you re the logic👍🏻. The whole shielding thing is purported to protect the immuno suppressed & aged who are in a more vulnerable bracket which is eminently false or the Govt would not have left the care homes to fend for themselves whilst pushing C19 sufferers back into homes. I think older members of society are not renown for charging into the fray in crowded areas without care for their own or others welfare. That is the job of teens to 30 somethings. I know that to be a fact as I was one too & guilty as charged👍🏻🤷🏻♂️
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Good luck trying to enforce that one Boris!
It probably is one of those Cummings inspired "floaters" aimed at gauging public opinion, but how on earth it could be adopted by a government so heavily reliant on the "grey vote" or enforced without the need to carry identity documents is beyond me.
We're still in the under 70's bracket (just) and I'm afraid edicts like this just wouldn't wash. We will continue to take care as we have done including social distancing (but then, being avoiding social gatherings comes naturally to me anyway!
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Floaters being the operative word👍🏻
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Yes, the idea of social distancing in many popular destinations is a complete joke. The forthcoming winter has the potential for being unbelievably awful. The folks (zillions of them) who’ve got it into their heads that it’s all over will move indoors to shed virus in more fertile situations. Seasonal colds, flu etc and all that goes with it will get intertwined with CV19 putting immense strain on the NHS. People will increasingly grow weary and frustrated with ongoing or reintroduced restrictions and ignore them. The prospect of a 2nd wave seems inevitable - witness current problems in those countries widely judged to have things under control. Problem is, economically, we don’t have much capacity left to fight it!
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I believe the logic behind it was that by keeping all us at home the younger less vulnerable could carry on more or less as normal. Yes they would get and transmit Covid, but statistically they would not get it as bad as us and much fewer would need hospitalisation. So the NHS would cope and the country could get back to normal more quickly.
Except of course for us old ones at home. Unfortunately as we tend to be the ones with significant spending power, I fear the logic is lacking.
I assume we would be released once a vaccine is available.
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A piece I read this morning mentioned the 50 - 70 age group. I'm outside that age range so I hope nobody is going to spoil any plans I might have.
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Anything could happen so my mantra would be take a break as soon as you can, it's good to get away and winter could be a long haul this year.
If people of a certain age are likely to be the most seriously affected there's not a lot to be done until a vaccine arrives. It looks like the 80 + range is the most at risk.
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Anyone who doesn’t consider our current situation regarding the virus as precarious is either in selfish denial, or simply too dim to take in the full concept of what is still ongoing as far as I am concerned.
I think with a huge amount of planning, careful choices and a degree of luck, it is perfectly possible to take a holiday, tour the country, enjoy seeing different places, but woe betide if your plans go awry, your choice is a poor one and your luck runs out.
I would hesitate to blame any section of society for being inconsiderate, as I have witnessed all ages, ethnicities and economic groups not being careful, not adhering to social distancing, thinking only of themselves these last few weeks, and it’s not confined to tourist areas, although some appear to be overwhelmed in terms of being able to cope at the moment.
What we have had so far is protecting the NHS and beds at all costs, (including the appalling decision to send untested vulnerable patients back into care homes). Now we have a decision to let loose the population to spend, spend, spend to try and fend off economic implosion, but is totally reliant upon providers having to police their own premises (it’s not happening) and the general public at large doing the right thing (that’s not happening either enough to forestall infection rates growing).
Like others, we are watching developments, hoping that we can get a break away, for us that will be as isolated as possible, taking all we need with us, doing next to nothing involving anyone else beyond buying the odd bottle of milk. Given that I have family and friends who I know will die if they get Covid, then I have prioritised them over my own needs, and will continue to do so. I don’t begrudge anyone the chance to get away, and sincerely hope that those that can enjoy themselves safely without risk and repercussions. 😷
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Locking up the oldies again will not go down too well with parents who rely on grandparents to help with childcare! Are the gov going to organise and pay for additional nursery places so the workers can keep working? Nursery places are not easy to come by as it is.
As the end of the school holidays up here approaches, Daddy, who is a teacher, has to go back to work soon, so our wee lad is starting back at nursery, mornings only as before, tomorrow, so the following week both sets of grandparents will be needed.
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Are the schools set up for taking pupils back yet K? Not sure what Scotland’s view on it is, but the latest “sound bite” from England is that September will see a full return to the classroom for all English pupils.
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Doomed, Doomed, we are ALL Doomed !!
I've been as good and as well behaved as anybody has the right to ask !!
The only way I could be better behaved is if C&MC allows me onto Altnahara on my own, and I think that is rather unlikely !!
Now I will have to pull up the drawbridge, use the underground escape tunnel down to ASDA , and order some 2022 calendars/diaries to remind me of "those days of wine and roses " !!
Keep well, stay safe, play nicely ( and only read the sports/puzzle pages of the newspapers
!! ){ Might have to order a job lot of Exclamation Marks as well
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Thing is, that this awful virus is likely to be with us for some time to come, possibly for years ahead, and although vaccine reports appear encouraging, there is no guarantee of an effective one being found, nor of the virus failing to mutate and render such a vaccine ineffective.
One can't put one's life on hold for ever - we will continue touring at home and abroad where it's "safe" to do so but we will be extremely cautious wherever we are.
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I do agree, it’s the caution bit that counts. We are hoping to get away September, hopefully when kids are back at school and things aren’t so busy. We shall just do our usual thing, walking, cycling, keep away from busy places and others as much as we can. We could be in for a long hard Winter, so need something to look back on😁
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I think it very much depends on where you live how safe you feel. Until recently our village felt very safe.
Since the better weather has come back we have had an influx of teenagers coming out from the city to 'party' on our little beach area of the river Tay. The mess they have made and left behind them is appalling. We have had NO cases of Covid in the village so far but that could change in the coming weeks. I do hope not as the children are due to start back to school in 9 days time.
We are due to go to France at the beginning of September as AD says having been good and stuck to all the rules and requests since the initial lockdown, it will take more than a request to stop us going on our intended trip.
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Travelling and touring, home and away, is, for us, one very important and enjoyable aspect of life. Through the our working life we were quite restricted in when and where we could get away (and what we could afford!)
So since retirement it's become an increasingly significant part of our lifes and, in that respect, we don't intend to put our "lifes on hold".
Doesn't mean we don't get involved in other things too!
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Best of luck WTG.
My own view is that the risk will be reduced for us "elderly" ones from September when schools go back, obviously excluding weekends, but as we have ventured out just recently, and will do so again next week, we will avoid all people who do not understand social distancing. We promise not to attend any raves or marches or football matches etc. So they will have to force me to stay at home by edict.
I know what the consequences would be for me so would hope that I can take just as much care walking on the hills or cycling, away from any crowds, as I can at home. Recent test results were not encouraging and I don't intend to idle my days away complying with a request from a Government that quite frankly has mishandled the whole affair. I don't want to turn the discussion political but it is part of my decision that I just cannot trust anything this lot say or ask.
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Been there WTG. Every household is an individual case, and can only do what is best for themselves. One can only use one’s common sense about what’s best for you and loved ones.
It can be a bit of a trade off with mental well being as well, our first taste of bought in fish and chips was utterly delicious, and spending a socially distanced hour with family members raised our spirits enormously. You have to trust those you are meeting up with are doing their best as well. Small things become huge treats. If I can get to dangle my tootsies into the sea sometime in next couple of months, I shall be very happy😁
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We are hoping to get away for 3-4 weeks after mid September, trying to make plans, but difficult to know where would be sensible and safe to go, probably south unless more virus hot spots develope, as I have a friend in North Wales I would like to visit......if he is receiving visitors of course.
We have not asked as yet as they are normally always keen for us to visit for several days, and we did not want to raise their hopes too soon. We do not stay over, we use a reasonably near CL, but are usually there for both lunch and dinner for at least 3 days, which is always bad for the waistline!Before we book anything we need DD to decide if she and Callum want 3 or 4 nights away with us as that will decide our first stop.
Even though we have been doing stuff at home, it does feel a lot like life is on hold right now, and at my age I do not want it on hold too long! At least we can now visit the family again.
Where we stay is very quiet, and we have felt very safe so far. The shops are not too busy and most people are keeping their distance and using face coverings.
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