Travelling from an area with new restrictions

alan1406
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edited July 2020 in Caravan & Motorhome Chat #1

We live in Huddersfield - part of Kirklees - which was subject to the additional restrictions featured heavily in the news last night (Thursday) and this morning, Friday.  We are booked in at Bridlington next Thursday.

I have examined the restrictions closely and nowhere does it mention a restriction on travelling.  I am aware that if there is a total lockdown (as was in Leicester) sites can legitimately turn away people travelling.  Indeed the Coronavirus FAQ section of the Club website reiterates

I've sent the Club an email but not sure that with volume of calls / emails etc they will get back to me before next week

If anyone from the Club is moderating / monitoring this forum, perhaps it's an idea to post an update to give some reassurance to members travelling from affected areas.

Guess it works the other way as well - what's the guidance for sites open inside the affected areas?  I'm assuming you cannot have other caravanners on your pitch even if they are staying on the same site.  A minefield!

Moderator Edit:

I've 'reported' your post in the hope that somebody from Head Office will be able to offer to further update and/or guidance to travellers.

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  • alan1406
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    edited July 2020 #2

    So presumably all Club Sites in the restricted areas will be vacated today as well?  On what basis and your understanding of the restrictions was your reply made obbernockle?

  • Whittakerr
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    edited July 2020 #3

    Alan 1406, I think you've answered your own question.

    "I have examined the restrictions closely and nowhere does it mention a restriction on travelling".

    This was also confirmed by Matt Hancock on TV this morning, the new restrictions do not prevent traveling in or out of the area, the emphasis is on not meeting people in private homes and gardens and maintaining social distancing.

     

  • brue
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    edited July 2020 #4

    Is this any help, the latest Government restrictions, what you can and cannot do. LINK

    You can travel to a holiday area but must avoid indoor socialising with other people.

    Hope you get a rsponse form CAMC too.

  • alan1406
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    edited July 2020 #5

    Thanks - yes, I did see this and looked at each section. Whilst it mentions “can I travel to an affected area?” it doesn’t specifically mention travelling out of an affected area. Which is a little worrying and leaves room for different interpretations

  • JillwithaJay
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    edited July 2020 #6

    I'm in an area which has been specifically targeted by these new restrictions.   However, the restrictions only prevent us from socialising indoors with members of another household.  There is no mention of us not travelling.  

  • alan1406
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    edited July 2020 #7

    I'm hoping this is the case with us.  I just want to make sure I get clarification from the Club.  I'm sure the site managers at Bridlington will know (with it being on the Yorkshire coast) but want to confirm

  • RowenaBCAMC
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    edited July 2020 #8

    Hi everyone, I hope to be able to post some amended FAQs for you from the Club around this topic later this afternoon. 

  • alan1406
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    edited July 2020 #9

    Many thanks Rowena 

  • EmilysDad
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    edited July 2020 #10

    The new restrictions are as confusing as ever. I'm in a restricted area too, I'm not allowed other households into my house & garden or the other way round but I'm allowed to meet them in my local pub!?!?

    I've booked into a CL a few weeks away .... I'm not going to worry until nearer the time. 

    But I'm now not allowed to have my grand daughter round for the day again 😣

  • Whittakerr
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    edited July 2020 #11

    I think its quite clear, and what you have stated is correct. You are not allowed to meet other households in (as in inside) your local pub, you can meet them in a public outdoor area as long as you maintain social distancing rules. At all times, you should socially distance from people you do not live with – unless they are in your support bubble.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited July 2020 #12

    Read the restrictions this morning, we luckily are not included, but my first thought was how contradictory some of the impositions come across. 

     

  • Rufs
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    edited July 2020 #13

    The new restrictions are as confusing as ever. I'm in a restricted area too, I'm not allowed other households into my house & garden or the other way round but I'm allowed to meet them in my local pub!?!?

    when i queried this with those supposedly in the know, was told that pubs , restaurants etc are supposed to have introduced measures re distancing, sanitising etc as per local government guidelines and if pub landlords for instance do not enforce them, then the establishment can be closed down, whereas in your home or garden it would be almost impossible to enforce any form of social distancing etc, take this as you will, i know many pubs in our area have introduced very strict measures, but enforcing them undecidedundecidedundecidedbut that said we did have 3 pubs in our area closed very early on when restrictions were liftedlaughing

  • Cornersteady
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    edited July 2020 #14

    that is sad to hear ED

  • EmilysDad
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    edited July 2020 #15

    and you know that will never happen within various groups .... only this morning a neighbour (who previously believed the rules were for everyone else but them) had a motorhome turn up & pitch/park on their drive ... no idea who they are, but they're not from their house hold.

  • JillwithaJay
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    edited July 2020 #16

    So; do we snitch on people who disobey the rules?

  • alan1406
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    edited July 2020 #17

    It puts you in a "no win" situation.  Report and be criticised.  Don't report and be criticised.  All we can hope for is the vast majority of us will comply with whatever restrictions are in place

  • Whittakerr
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    edited July 2020 #18

     I agree with you, there has, and will always be people who ignore the rules, even when the rules are clear.

    It sounds like your neighbours are continuing to believe the rules are for everyone else but them.

  • Whittakerr
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    edited July 2020 #19

    Report it, anonymously if you want.

  • JVB66
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    edited July 2020 #20

    Its because people as at any time there seems a "problem" will complain on social; media etc ,   then are not prepared to put their heads above the "parapet"     many complained about "problems" go unresolvedundecided  

  • Whittakerr
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    edited July 2020 #21

    The club has now updated its FAQ page SEE HERE

    From what i can see it dosent address your situation directly, but address the opposite situation, i.e. someone from outside the NorthWest coming to a site within the NorthWest area where new restrictions are now in force.

  • RowenaBCAMC
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    edited July 2020 #22

    Hi everyone,

    Further to local lockdown in the North West and West Yorkshire, you can still arrive and stay on our Club sites. All social distancing guidance needs to be adhered to and there may be local restrictions in place so please check our FAQs for further information:

    Coronavirus FAQs

     

  • alan1406
    alan1406 Forum Participant Posts: 75
    edited July 2020 #23

    The Club has now updated it's Coronavirus FAQs addressing both travel from and to affected areas.  Thanks guys for all your input and thanks to the CAMC team for moving quickly to clarify this

    https://www.caravanclub.co.uk/coronavirus-faqs/

  • Pliers
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    edited July 2020 #24

    Thanks, Rowena, that’s good news. Fingers crossed that our booked trip to the Club’s site at Kendal will go ahead. ( we live in Pendle Borough). But we don’t go until 7th Aug, so anything could happen before then!

    🙂

  • AnnB
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    edited July 2020 #25

    We live in Greater Manchester but in a LA area that has the second lowest current rates of positive tests in the northwest (Current rate is 8 per 100k), yet we are lumped together with the other 9 LAs in Greater Manchester.  Just hope other campsite operators don’t take an unreasonable approach.

  • alan1406
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    edited July 2020 #26

    Because of the blanket nature (geographically) of the restrictions it's impossible to expect site managers to allow selective interpretation.  We too are in the same situation - the rates in North Kirklees are far higher than our part and are driving the averages up.  The problem is you see every day complacency starting to creep in

  • EmilysDad
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    edited July 2020 #27

     ... and the other neighbour had her grand parents round, presumably organised previously  ..... Of all people to know the 'rules' they should as his Mum is a copper! 🤷‍♂️

     

  • EmilysDad
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    edited July 2020 #28

    As it turns out, we will have our grand daughter as everyone is back to work now (poor kid has mummy & her partner and daddy & his partner)

    Government furlough has apparently come to an end, kids are still off school .. what does the gov think all these kids will do? Stay at home on their own perhaps? Or do as life before Covid & be looked after their g/parents while their parents are going to work to keep a roof over their heads

  • EmilysDad
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    edited July 2020 #29

    I'm guessing you live in the area where I work .... under the shadow of a huge 57! 😉

  • obbernockle
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    edited July 2020 #30

    What reply is that?

  • alan1406
    alan1406 Forum Participant Posts: 75
    edited July 2020 #31

    Doesn’t matter now - thanks