Found out C&MH Club sites are expensive
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They work out greatly reduced for 2 or more people but NOT if there is only one person on some sites such as Aberbran. I stayed there for one night a couple of years ago as Brecon site was fully booked on the Saturday and it was actually dearer (for me) than the Brecon site was. It is a lovely little site though, very nostalgic if you are a railway fan, very well kept and lovely views.
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Yes, ridiculous I know. Why should I expect to enjoy competitive rates in return for a membership fee? Maybe that was the case 8 years ago when I joined, but I must confess the due diligence studies have slipped a bit lately and I am short sighted (corrected with glasses).
Temp? ‘Value for money’ = worth the money spent on it. If you can get the same for less, not sure most would judge it VFM? The only exception I can think of are those afflicted with brand snobbery
As I understand things, this is a forum - a place where people with similar interests can leave messages or discuss particular topics. I’m certainly not seeking to educate you, but express a view in the hope that it may in some small way have some influence on those who are in a position to change things.
I’d you feel personally insulted, all I can say is ‘you reap what you sow’, but I’ll try to be nice to you from now on.
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Temp? ‘Value for money’ = worth the money spent on it. If you can get the same for less, not sure most would judge it VFM? The only exception I can think of are those afflicted with brand snobbery
If you can get the same for less. Not always possible though is it. Depends on location. There are three sites within 3 miles of Chester and as at mid July for two adults. One is little more than a tarmac car park at £25, One is a wide open field with some hardstandings available with a painted breeze block facilities at £25,
One is a site with nice tree planting and hedges hardstandings, spacious tiled facilities at £30.
Guess which is CMC and guess which I would choose.
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ET, If the latter is CAMC, then that’s great and I’m pleased to see it. I don’t normally give much thought to site fees. In the UK just about all of my touring would be low season, and site fees are generally reasonable. However, because of CV I find myself trapped in the U.K. and I’ve been shocked at the high season fees on many CAMC sites. Despite that, they’re all full so I’ve needed to use commercial sites in the absence of a suitable CL/CS site. I’ve been surprised, many are better value, and they have pitches available.
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"One is a site with nice tree planting and hedges hardstandings, spacious tiled facilities at £30."
And a superbly refurbished MHSP with drive over grids and even a black waste dump which is a rare find. Yep, CAMC👍🏻.
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Yes the third one id Chester Fairoaks. We find little difference very often in site fees at the times when we travel. and the difference can be either way for similar standards. For us, not wanting bars and pools etc we find the CMC sites are, for us, better than most. And CMC sites are definitely not the dearest in many popular areas
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Though i agree with your on points 1 & 2
Point 3 is a good idea, as it works well , in conjunction with pitches being vacated at 12 .
Point 4 is also a good idea, as many times i have arrived at a caravan club site, having to pitch on a small pitch, as the large pitches have been taken by small caravans, and motor homes which do not need such large pitches
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It make sense to allocate pitches relative to size
not if you consider that everyone pays the same? I'd rather choose my own than have a warden do it for me, far fairer.
Also, what is a small pitch? most club site pitches are usually the same and all can accommodate the vast majority of caravans, and have at least 3m between outfits. Or you talking about awning, non awning pitches? If so that is just the way the club at presents does things. Use the other club perhaps?
Anyway what have you done regarding what you have found out regarding club sites being 'expensive'?
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There might well be a lot of CC pitches that are the same size, but then there are also little pitches.
Far fairer? For who? Those who want to pitch a VW/similar camper in the middle of a huge awning pitch ..... there were two at the site I was at last week while I squeezed onto a blue peg as that was all that was available at the time. A warden might have made it fairer for me!
And a price differential between blue & white peg pitches would be a good idea ..... all IMHO of course!
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C&CC don't allocate pitches as such. After listening to your preferences, a warden will take you to a part of the site that meets those requirements and suggest pitch A or B but you’re perfectly at liberty to request pitch C as long as it’s the right type of pitch.
Pitches of the same type are all priced the same with C&CC regardless of size except for their jumbo pitches which carry jumbo prices.
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Have spent a two separate weeks on two different privates sites, saved a lot of money, and the facilitates have been as good as the clubs.
Off this week to a third private site , what is so annoying is we are not finding it that difficult to book a pitch for a week, that includes a week end, and we do not have to pay a membership fee, to be told no sites available .
In both case ,probably because the mangers of the site are also the owners, they have been extremely friendly, and helpful
Some of the rules especially with dogs, make it clear it is the responsibility of the owner to keep the dog in control , on a lead, and quite . Unlike some Battersea dog homes Caravan club sites i have been on ,and they charged for dogs ,something the club should introduce .0 -
Should the VW owners have thought "I'd better not pitch there in case someone with a big car and caravan needs it" when they have no idea who might be turning up?
Blame the system, maybe, but not the vanners.
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Point 4 is also a good idea, as many times i have arrived at a caravan club site, having to pitch on a small pitch, as the large pitches have been taken by small caravans, and motor homes which do not need such large pitches
It make sense to allocate pitches relative to size
Only if you are going to pay more than me on my smaller pitch. We might only have a MH but we still want to have room to pull out our awning, which ever way round we decide to park.😀
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I still can't understand what a small pitch is if you have 3m between you and your neighbour?
Far fairer? For who? Those who want to pitch a VW/similar camper in the middle of a huge awning pitch ..... there were two at the site I was at last week while I squeezed onto a blue peg as that was all that was available at the time. A warden might have made it fairer for me!
Taking each point in turn, yes fairer for everyone as we all pay the same?
The part about those being on pitches you wanted sounds a bit like sour grapes really? Why should you have the 'best' pitches due to the fact that you have a large outfit, do you pay more in any way to the club? Hardly fair to anyone else is it? First come first served is fair I think, sometimes it works in your favour and sometimes not. And of course they booked an awning pitch and you didn't, so the warden couldn't have made it fairer as that was your choice in the first place. You booked a non awning pitch and got one, so very fair to me.
And a warden making it fairer doesn't make sense another way, as you don't know when they came or when they were leaving, you had a specific set of dates and unless those that had your preferred pitch had exactly the same it wouldn't have worked.
Also if you wanted a 'larger' why didn't you book an awning pitch in the first place? Unless that was all that was left, in which you can't complain?
I do agree about different prices, wouldn't bother me as I would book an awning pitch or mainly SP each time but as I said it is how the club currently works.
Good to hear the site was full.
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TMTO, I’m getting the impression you’re not a fan of CAMC. Are the points you’ve raised in these posts sufficient to make you relinquish your membership at the next renewal? If not, things can’t really be too bad, can they?
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It appears to me that you want the club to change to suit yourself, you have found that elsewhere gives you what you want, less money, availability, no membership fee, dogs 'under' control, charging for dogs... so go there, win win isn't it?
What are you finding so annoying about all that? I thought you would be happy.
Club sites do have the rules regrading dogs btw
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But worse than that TW, those VW owners had the temerity to book an awning pitch in the first place without any regard for those large outfits who may have needed it.
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Shock, horror 🤣🤣🤣
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Strange defensive reply, where have i blamed the vanners ?
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TMTO - you did see that TW had quoted and replied to ED and not you?
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Correct, the CCC does not allocate pitches, however the CCC system is set up to take in to consideration, size of outfit including awning or not
So when you arrive you are offers any of those pitch that have no been taken, not any that are still empty0 -
Like we have said, if you don't like CAMC procedures don't use them.
I'm still puzzled by what you find annoying about using non club sites, they seem to suit you down to the ground?
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The sooner the Club rebrands itself ‘Dog Club for Caravaners’ the better. The current branding creates unnecessary confusion and disappointment.
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Check it out, TMTO. I was quoting and responding to ED's post.
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I think that’s what I was saying as in "....as long as it’s the right type of pitch". The wrong size, or surface, wouldn’t be the right type.
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Sorry if I misunderstood, ED, but that’s the inference I got from -
"Far fairer? For who? Those who want to pitch a VW/similar camper in the middle of a huge awning pitch ..... there were two at the site I was at last week while I squeezed onto a blue peg as that was all that was available at the time. A warden might have made it fairer for me!"
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There's a phrase along the lines of cba to read it all .... 🙄
You could have 3 meters between a pitch 6' wide or 3 meters between pitches 12' wide ... can't see your reasoning.
No sour grapes at all .... i just noted 2 almost identical VW's on opposite pitches sat in the middle ocean of gravel. If you remember, the site was 2nd choice from a Welsh site whose facilities were still closed but at open prices.
A warden will know his/her site & where best to pitch bigger/small outfits.
Re prices ... I did say in my opinion ... I wasn't suggesting getting it changed in Parliament!
And please define 'best' pitch .... 🤔 It could be compared to the 'best tow car' .... what one person thinks is 'best' would be hell to others
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