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  • davetommo
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    edited June 2020 #423

    I wonder how many of them are on furlough because it is deemed not safe for them to work

  • EasyT
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    edited June 2020 #424

    Not necessarily Nellie. My youngest needs to shield and has done since before lockdown. We had a cancelled holiday with her two children in April and she would be happy to go away staying well away from people which is possible on a caravan site. 

  • EasyT
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    edited June 2020 #425

    There are still places where it is possible to keep away from folk. 

  • no one
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    edited June 2020 #426

    48 tonnes of rubbish shifted from Bournemouth beaches, my thoughts are leave it there so when these people come back they can sit in their own waste nests.

    I have been told to remain in isolation by my doc, there is no way I would take a delivery slot, my next door neighbour who is more than capable has 3 deliveries a day because they can't be bothered to go to the shops, I feel for those who really need the deliveries when inconsiderate people like my neighbour are to selfish to care.

    social distancing is 1plus which means 1 m plus a shield of some sort, ie Perspex, face covering or turning away (called mitigation by the PM). The 2m rule is still in force, so 1.5m is not correct!

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  • moulesy
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    edited June 2020 #428

    Hello yet again, Alan - how you doing?

    Why would they consider themselves to be safe on site but unsafe in the shops? 

    (It's a rhetorical question really, I'm not at all surprised you should have responded to me in the way you did!  frown)

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited June 2020 #429

    I just don't understand this complete u-turn by the Club on food deliveries to campsites. There are several sites I can think of where a Tesco home delivery could cause chaos trying to leave the site whilst others are approaching along a single access road. Likewise is  a food delivery driver going to wait in queue for two dozen units to be checked into somewhere like Chatsworth? Or are food deliveries going to be site specific? Of late we have been lucky to get a delivery slot let alone being able to select a time that might be convenient for the campsite?  Chances are that many many home delivery service routes won't include campsites unless the supermarkets  are near enough to the campsite.

    David

  • MikeyA
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    edited June 2020 #430

    CLs spring to mind.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2020 #432

    It’s very difficult to get delivery slots here as it is.

    We had a discussion a few days ago - I think it was in the Wales thread - about the effect of visitors on the economy in tourist spots and it was pointed out that businesses would benefit from spending in local shops, not in national supermarket chains. Apart from disadvantaging local people by 'stealing' the delivery slots, I’m surprised the club is willing to forego the goodwill of local people and traders.

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2020 #433

    It seems to have been a "knee jerk" response to some ones "idea" for after the sites open ,wthout any real thoughts about the local population and access to some sites, 

    As many who posted on here when the idea was first mooted  by a few on here , The problems could be seen by most,

     It seems recently with many at HO  not being in hands on control of the "ship" and seems to be more "rudderless" than normal with some of the decisions that have recently been made recently 

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  • Fisherman
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    edited June 2020 #435

    Visitors are really going to be welcomed when the locals find their delivery slots are no longer available because site deliveries have taken over. So much for helping the local economy by buying from the supermarkets. Seems the same as the crowds at Bournmouth today. Thanks we have the LOCAl rule still here in Wales.

  • huskydog
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    edited June 2020 #436

    I think that some want a holiday without the thought of the impact they might have on the locality they are visiting, I have booked for September, but if I feel that the area that I am going to is still having new cases and places to visit might have reduced opening then I will cancel 

  • Compo
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    edited June 2020 #437

    Why would anyone want to discriminate against the vulnerable so much. Surely they have suffered more than any over the past few months. The Government (with advice from the medics I presume) have issued the following advice from 6th July. 

    "you may, if you wish, meet in a group of up to 6 people outdoors, including people from different households, while maintaining strict social distancing
    you no longer need to observe social distancing with other members of your household
    in line with the wider guidance for single adult households (either an adult living alone or with dependent children under 18) in the general population, you may from this date, if you wish, also form a ‘support bubble’ with one other household. All those in a support bubble will be able to spend time together inside each other’s homes, including overnight, without needing to socially distance"

    Please let them go on holiday and enjoy themselves without them worrying what the locals might think of them. Please remember it is a National Health Service there for everyone.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited June 2020 #438

    I just wonder how locals will know 'their' slots have been taken by site deliveries?

    Also despite your LOCAL rules in your part of the UK it appears there have been a significant spike yesterday or so compared to others countries in the UK.

    Also I remember pointing out to you that Wales have higher infection rates than the rest of the UK per population so perhaps your thanks and LOCAL rules are misaligned (and you can't really blame it this time on The English bringing it over the border). You have proclaiming gloom and doom over in England since we relaxed our rules for a number of week snow, yet as I said, Wales has seen an upward spike?

     

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  • Compo
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    edited June 2020 #440

    No, you don't stand aside . You share. If the locals are vulnerable, I suggest they also be allowed to go on holiday if they wish to.

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  • brue
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    edited June 2020 #442

    Well another week to go and those of us who live in tourist areas will find out how things work out, we're on a crowded island for holidays just now! 

  • Compo
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    edited June 2020 #443

    Fair enough. Your position is quite clear. You don't think vulnerable people should go on holiday. People will make their own minds up as to whether they think that is being selfish or not.

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  • no one
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    edited June 2020 #445

    those of us that live in touristy area's normally stand aside every year for the summer invasion, even when I was young I never went to the beach in summer, the difference now  is we have ALL been in lockdown and need a break which is why it will carnage.

    I will just do as I have been doing, watch people fall off cliffs, jump off bridges and rocks into shallow water and swim where they shouldn't on news feeds (apart from the cliff thing as it normally happens less than 200m from my house) can't wait for the residential roads to be blocked by day trippers

  • Metheven
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    edited June 2020 #446

    Nothing like a pandemic to bring our four nations together, reminds me of the old Yugoslavia.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited June 2020 #447

    Not sure how that can be read wrong .... the info posted suggested the deliveries may/might be delivered to the gate.

  • EasyT
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    edited June 2020 #448

     Rhetorical questions from those that already know the answer obviously do not need a reply. 

    I shall give one. My youngest is very vulnerable and with her present self measured lung capacity has been told that she should, in normal times, be admitted as it is suspected that she might have pneumonia. She has no experience of shopping in the present times. She does know that she need to avoid people. Perfectly possible on a site.  

  • Compo
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    edited June 2020 #449

    I'm sorry for misreading your posts. I thought you were saying vulnerable people should not go on holiday because of the strains they may put on the services for vulnerable local people. Now that I know that is not your view, I will continue with my planned holiday, and hopefully enjoy it without impacting the lives of the local community too much.

  • Rufs
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    edited June 2020 #450

    and what about the increase in traffic on the site in general, there are lots of people who will need to drive to the designated area to pick up their groceries undecided

  • EasyT
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    edited June 2020 #451

    I have no personal experience of online food shopping and deliveries. From what people have posted, here and elsewhere, how likely is it that if somebody was on site that they would be able to book a delivery slot during their stay?