Arrival Chaos
I may have missed existing discussion or news on this subject. I have booked Bourton Water for arrival 4th July, first day of opening. I have chosen arrival for midday. It just occurs to me now that no one will be leaving that day and potentially 64 units will turn up at midday. The site access is not massive and there are some sites even worse. I can imagine carnage at somewhere like Hillhead or Godrevy!!
Does anyone have any information on how the Club are approaching this potential nightmare.
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Pub lunch on the way there and arrive about 2 pm.
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Ok, but they are taking the bookings so they should have the snapshot of long queues on dangerous roads. The Bourton to Cheltenham Road is a notorious boy racer practise sprint past club entrance, as an example. Someone needs to address the problem well in advance.
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Yeah 2 will suit me fine but what if loads more share this common sense thought. I’m a bit nervy about arrival chaos, excuse timidity, but I saw a boy racer shunt into a motorhome in a queue at Hillhead few years back.
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What is the difference in arriving on the first day of opening post coronavirus crisis and the first day of opening a site in a normal year? Do you get hordes of vanners outside the gates on the latter occasion, or is it that having been deprived of caravanning for 3 months, people are suffering from "lockdown brain" and are going to fall over themselves to get out on site?
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Personally, I won’t be going anywhere near a site on 4 July. I’ll give all the desperate to camp folk a wide berth and let things settle down before I even think about venturing onto a site. There you go, I’ll let someone else have my place in the queue.😀
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As Bourton on the Water is only a small site with 57 pitches and no toilet block will there be that much of a rush? That site is on a short,dead end, minor road from the main road so plenty of room for at least a dozen outfits if need be. In a situation where you have a lot of arrivals the wardens always have the option to first establish if you have a booking and then allow you onsite before booking in, select a pitch, and then book in afterwards depending on whether that could fit with the new distancing measures?
David
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The answer to both your questions is YES.
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I think there is a bit of a difference, when a site reopens after winter closure then its generally in March when the number of members visiting are relatively small. But 4th July is peak season and when most sites are full.
We booked Godrevy in Cornwall for our main 2 week Summer hols last October for the 4th July this year. When we went last summer we arrived by the book at 12:05 only to find 3 vans in front of us. During our stay we noticed Vans were being let in from around 10:45am so thats the time I will arrive.
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To block the access road to Notgrove site on to the A436 would need about 12LVs The seasonal and storage have been there since March and did not cause a problem when rushing? to be there ,I would expect it to be even less when the site reopens
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If you find a queue at Godrevy will you block the road to traffic travelling in both directions or will you drive on hoping to find somewhere to turn - which you won’t?
Wardens probably let the early arrivals in for the very reason that the road won’t cope with parked up LVs. I've seen them be made to wait inside the gate before being allowed to book in at 1200. The selfish early arrivals cause great problems at many site. Please don’t add to that problem.
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Afternoon
When you asked the same question on your other thread I replied that is entirely your choice and your responsibility if you decide to block the public highway. No change there I'm afraid. There may be a possibility of opening the gates a bit earlier, who knows? On a normal spring opening day there's around five hours work to do before the gates open, that means I start at seven a.m. No idea how we'll get on with all the extra measures to put in place to keep everyone safe but I really don't fancy starting any earlier
JK
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And someone else can have mine! That's 2 less
I'm of the same opinion, won't be going anywhere near a site on that day, I'd rather be at home.
Mind you, now the R rate is only just below 1 in the NW and SW, as per today's briefing, we may be on a regional lockdown by then............
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Remember the queues outside Ikea?
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Different demography Nevers, possibly same mind set though😂
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It seems that was a bit of a flash in the pan! Two days later the car park in MK was almost empty. So perhaps the answer is not to book for opening day but a couple of days later?
David
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Hi
I think that's a good idea DK, opening day will be somewhat interesting
JK
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I've not ventured onto this forum since the start of lockdown.
And clearly from what I've seen in this post alone is enough to put me off for the rest of the season.
Just reading the title of this thread shows the mentality that COVID-19 is taking over people's lives, I dread to think what kind of antics some members will get up to on club sites when God forbid they do open,i for one will be steering well clear of the virus induced madness that is bound to follow.
You only have to look around the Grocery supermarkets & food outlets that have recently opened for take away service to understand the lengths selfish people will go to, to try & get one over on every member of our civilised society.
Clearly going caravanning this year for some with come at a greater physical & mental cost than previous years.
2020 the year we all washed our hands & the world as we knew it stopped.
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Well expressed.
Unfortunately, there probably will always be some people who think the rules don't apply to them and that they can arrive well before the designated arrival time.
I find it ludicrous that a member has posted that s/he will arrive at 10.45 am. Perhaps s/he will be turned away or told to wait in a safe parking area near the entrance until the correct time.
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+1, Dunelm. To see a member who has signed up to abide by the club's T&Cs blatantly post that he intends to break them beggars belief.
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+1. Reading that really confirmed to me that it's best to stay away on opening day. Not that I'm likely to change my mind anyway, far from it. Arriving at 10.45am sets the scene for some "interesting" behaviour, akin to what apparently went on in the supermarkets when you couldn't get toiletrolls for love nor money back in March.
People used to go on about "frenzy booking day" on CT. I reckon you ain't seen nothing yet come the 4th of July
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Have the club any plans on how the sites will manage the shower and toilet facilities when the sites are reopened.
Or will we have to use our own.
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I am sure that there are plans ,to the way forward, but being just mear members and the information that we have been privy to so far, since all the sites and storage facilities were all closed to most members. I would not expect anything from the club to give members any chance of getting ready for either scenario until we arrive on sites or if possible? contact the site if possible, when they come out of furlough
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At the moment no one knows what the criteria will be for re-opening irrespective of the date. However i expect (hope) the club are working on the basis of planning for worst (limits on capacity/visitors and keeping facilities closed) whilst hoping for the best. However i re-iterate what i have said elsewhere: supermarket customer toilets are open and places of work have to provide staff loos. I therefore cannot understand why there is all this talk about closed toilets. As for arrival ‘chaos’, that is for each site to put a safe arrival plan in place, perhaps in some cases cancelling some bookings for a night or two to allow a build up of arrivals spread over 2-3 days. It isnt (it shouldnt) be difficult. Whilst i do not expect the club to be advising those with 4th July bookings of details i would hope for a general email to those with early july bookings. Like the private site where we are booked who sent me at the weekend with a ‘heads up’ they may not be fully operational if or when we arrive on 4th.
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