Corona Virus Concerns

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  • Pathfinder
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    edited May 2020 #2702

    As Mrs WN says he's obviously not stupid as he knows how to fly but he is another of those "Educated Idiots".

    Or in other words 'brainy but no common sense'

  • Fisherman
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    edited May 2020 #2703

    Wrong again Cornersteady . Its the old MONA airstrip not the current RAF. However you word it, what a plonker but after Cummings way anything is possible from England. By the way entry into Wales still restricted as is our movement within. We accept it in the benefit of all. As the First Minister said on Friday, Its not us but the Virus thats fatal. Lets be fair even Cummings or Boris or anyone else would have envisaged that stunt in need of putting into words in lockdown rules.

  • Wherenext
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    edited May 2020 #2704

    An RAF spokesman said: "The RAF can confirm that on 25 May a civilian PC-12 aircraft landed on a closed runway at RAF Valley without permission.

    This is the quote from BBC Wales but it really doesn't matter about where he landed just that he did and the fact that he could think it was a good idea.

    This thread is about our Concerns and one of mine, mentioned some posts ago, was the muddlesd message that Johnson gave out when he relaxed the travel rules in England. He did not make it abundantly clear and in easy to understand words that this only applied to England so Wales and Scotland have both had incursions where folks from England thought that travel was anywhere in the UK. This is what happens when you have someone giving out instructions who is poor at doing just that.

  • brue
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    edited May 2020 #2705

    The excuse was on a par with DC...what a strange thing to do?!  undecided

  • no one
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    edited May 2020 #2706

    Yet another death on the coast, this young 17 year old lad was from Birmingham. He had gone snorkelling or spear fishing on the Weymouth bay side of Portland, but 200 yards out and the 3 rip currents run around Portland Bill and if he was there, wouldn't stand a chance, but obviously he knew better! Look how many were involved in the search.

    If going to the coast please stay safe.

    'A spokesman said: "Despite a thorough and comprehensive search by RNLI lifeboats from Weymouth and Swanage, coastguard search and rescue helicopters from St Athan and Lee-on-Solent, a police helicopter, two coastguard fixed wing search aircraft, rescue boats from the cruise ships Britannia and Queen Mary 2, two Royal Navy warships, a Royal Navy helicopter, coastguard rescue teams from Wyke and Portland Bill and Dorset Police, nothing has been found'

  • Metheven
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    edited May 2020 #2707

    There are some with extremely odd ideas of right and wrong during this pandemic frown

    The safest place at the moment is the Space Station, next someone will think it's a good idea to send people up to contaminate them ...... Oh wait a minute undecided

  • brue
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    edited May 2020 #2708

    I'm wondering whether the DC effect is more along the lines of Abraham Lincoln..

    "You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time but you cannot fool all the people all the time."

     

  • brue
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    edited May 2020 #2709

    It's sad, I've been reading about it locally, I don't really think many seventeen year olds know much about life. 

    Had it been a normal holiday week in this good weather the rescue services would have been flat out, unfortunately. frown

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited May 2020 #2710

    Is that because it came from a Welsh news Source?😂

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited May 2020 #2711

    Thanks for the update Steve, is pretty much I how I expected it to be. It’s often a day out for us in normal times, we like to take the MH and make a day of it, walk the pooch, do a bike ride, and then chill out with a meal in MH. But I fear it might just get too busy for our needs, even in some of the less popular park up areas. I bet the Walled Garden is looking stunning though, if the gardeners have managed to get anything done.😀

  • Cornersteady
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    edited May 2020 #2712

    An RAF spokesman said: "The RAF can confirm that on 25 May a civilian PC-12 aircraft landed on a closed runway at RAF Valley without permission.

    sorry how am I wrong (again) Fish? Please explain or are the BBc and the RAF telling porkies? Or more Fish-newssmile

    what a plonker but after Cummings way anything is possible from England

    For me it is getting a bit tiring how you keep having ago at how your government is doing so better at handling this than the English with it's carefully planned approach, ie:

    Here in wales the first minister talked about what next will be relaxed specifying to businesses they should be using the next 3 weeks to prepare, not like England where changes seem to be made on the hoof with little preparation time.

    I could remind you that looking at the population totals and current raw data on deaths and infections that the death rates for England Scotland and Wales are more of less the same per head of population at 0.047%, 0.045% and 0.041%.

    And in terms of infections England is at 0.24%, Scotland at 0.25%, but in your part of the world it is 0.37%, so it could be argued that your government's approach isn't as good in reducing infections as you would appear to suggest? 

     

  • JVB66
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    edited May 2020 #2713

    Although there are very few larger aircraft flying in this areacool there seems to be more light aircraft about,  and  most seem to be on a course south westerly ,have they found a way into Wales /Devon or Cornwall missing the road blockswink

  • Bakers2
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    edited May 2020 #2714

    Really sad, I feel for his friends and family. I feared the worst when I first read it. RIP young man, you've no idea the hurt you've caused 😢

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited May 2020 #2715

    +1 B2, there’s the rub-he gets the big sleep his friends & family are left with a lifetime of what ifs☹️😢

  • Bakers2
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    edited May 2020 #2716

    And the rescue and recovery crew. Coroner etc  😢

  • SteveL
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    edited May 2020 #2717

    As I understand it the teams and astronauts have been in isolation to avoid just such an incident. Either way NASA TV, available on You Tube, makes for much more compelling viewing than the rest of the news at the moment. Watching it at the moment on the smart tele and will certainly tune in for the launch this evening.

  • moulesy
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    edited May 2020 #2718

    Sadly, two more casualties not from the seaside this time but "cooling off" in the river Avon near Bath.  frown

    https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/bath-weir-deaths-tributes-paid-4177087

  • Fisherman
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    edited May 2020 #2719

    Mona is the old RAF with its closed runway. Not the actual site now used by the RAF> Could it be that any increase in infections in Wales are the result of the persistent breaches we see coming in by road/ Air from England. Nough said. "We are all in this together" and this virus is the one that kills  

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited May 2020 #2720

    How fortunate that all the Welsh are upright law abiding citizens and not breaching rules. Come on, Fish, folk are getting a bit fed up with this pointing the finger of blame.😖

    I’m concerned about incomers but I'm not so naive as to think all westcountry people are saints. There are good and bad in all groups.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited May 2020 #2721

    Well you know better than the RAF and BBC then Fish so I'll bow to that superior knowledge. Also why did RAF emergency services attend the plane? Either way your use of a little airport was totally incorrect as was the 'imposed fine'

    And it's England fault again now? Not perhaps your government's incorrect stance? Or your own people perhaps not keeping to social distancing guidelines, or illicit meetings? More usage of public transport?  I have really no idea, could be anything, but I don't keep blaming other countries like you do all the time, just a thought.

    Anyway I though you said your police were stopping all coming through?

     

  • Cornersteady
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    edited May 2020 #2722

    +1. Like I said tiring blaming it all one on reasonundecided 

  • brue
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    edited May 2020 #2723

    Sadly the new outbreak at Weston General in Somerset has been traced to the staff accommodation. Some of the staff also work in the community, care homes etc so there's now an effort underway to test more people.

    To my mind the testing needs to be ramped up everywhere. Many were asymptomatic at the hospital.

  • no one
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    edited May 2020 #2724

    The runway might be closed, but it is still MOD property and subject to

    trespassers will be shot, I mean, prosecuted!

    RAF Mona

    The MOD owns vast tracts of land which, when unused, are still fenced in and treated like nature reserves.

  • brue
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    edited May 2020 #2725

    Thanks for the reminder have been reading up bits and bobs, 20.22 uk time. smile

  • davetommo
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    edited May 2020 #2726

    He probably thought if I go in the car the police will stop me, so went by air and failed. Next time he might try a parachute drop.

  • Fisherman
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    edited May 2020 #2727

    Mona airfield by the way services the Anglesey to Cardiff civil route. Could be how he knew where to land?  Again whichever way you look at it - what a plonker.

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited May 2020 #2728

    Like "what if he/they had just stuck to the don't travel far/stay local" request?

  • scoutman
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    edited May 2020 #2729

    Whether posters on here have views one way or the other on the slightly different interpretations of how lockdown should be carried out in the devolved administrations, I certainly detect unease amongst several UK Government advisors about the unnecessary haste it has been carried out to the East of Offa's Dyke. As reported on Radio 2's news this evening, is this now the early signs of trying to get the genie back in the bottle.

  • davetommo
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    edited May 2020 #2730

    I think Boris might be trying to take the heat off Dominic by giving us all more freedom.

  • JVB66
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    edited May 2020 #2731

    Or the Kinnocks bringing it backwink