Crowtrees Farm (ST10 3HR) - Covid guidelines

AlysonS
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edited May 2020 in Certificated Locations #1

Feeling really confused to see a Caravan Certified Location excepting bookings whilst the COVID restrictions are in force.  During our Sunday afternoon walk we passed Crowtrees Farm, Waterhouses (ST10 3HR) - surprised to see three caravans, pitched with awnings occupied by people. This doesn’t not seem right. I have also raised by concerns directly with the Club, waiting on a response.

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited May 2020 #2

    I’ve read this before. Is this a duplicate? The other was couched in much stronger terms.

    We aren't aware of the facts and I'm not sure it’s right to feature the site in a story when there may well be valid mitigating circumstances. I feel it would be best to let the club deal with the matter in private.

  • Buckley 74
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    edited May 2020 #3

    The caravans you saw might of been there by key workers. I know a few people who are staying in motorhomes and caravans so they don't put their family's at risk because of the job they do.... Only a thought

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited May 2020 #4

    That’s exactly why we shouldn't jump to conclusions, B74. 👍🏻

    In Cornwall there are several NHS workers living in holiday accommodation because they are isolating themselves from their families whilst they are tending Covid patients.

  • moulesy
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    edited May 2020 #5

    Here's another possible scenario - the "occupants" may have been staying there when the lockdown was announced and rather than make them take awnings down the owner agreed to let them leave the vans on site. I agree that CLs are supposed to be closed but you saw the "occupants" in the afternoon. They weren't necessarily staying overnight.

    Unlikely? Yes. Against the "spirit" of the lockdown? Almost certainly. But maybe better to raise it with the club for investigation than repeat it on here I feel.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited May 2020 #7

    Well said, JL 👏👏

  • EasyT
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    edited May 2020 #8

    It might be totally 'right' and all depends on circumstance. 

  • moulesy
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    edited May 2020 #9

     I am a little surprised that neither the CL owners nor anyone from the club has clarified the situation. There may be any number of legitimate explanations for what the OP saw.

  • Oneputt
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    edited May 2020 #10

    The other thread about this was closed down for some reason.  The fact is we don’t know the facts.  In this area there were 4 LV’s on 2 x CL’s when the lockdown started and they were all the occupiers full time home so no where else to go.  As it happens the owner had another paddock which isn’t part of the CL’s so they all moved there.  The guys don’t pay site fees only for ehu.  I’m sure that there will Probably be other CL’s hosting full time vanners.

    Moderator Comment - The original was chosen to be closed as there was only one reply whereas by the time this thread was moved from the Story Section there were already several replies. 

  • wildemere
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    edited May 2020 #11

    We have a M/h on site at this time, they live in France and have an elderly relative nearby whom they look after as her carer is no longer able to visit. We speak via phone and payment via Backs. I see this as helping a family in need.

  • no one
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    edited May 2020 #12

    Not forgetting, CL's are private and on private land so the owners can do as they see fit surely.

    If I sleep in my Motorhome on my drive (which I have done) is that against the current advice? I doubt it as the club encourages this activity at the moment.

     

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  • EasyT
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    edited May 2020 #13

    I see it as totally sensible

  • EasyT
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    edited May 2020 #14

    Perhaps they do not feel the need to justify their actions? 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited May 2020 #15

    My post was the second or third in the first story/thread and several followed it 🤷‍♂️

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited May 2020 #16

    CL owners cannot do their own thing entirely, RJN. They operate under the club's exemption arrangement and their permission to operate is via that exemption certification. If the club removes of suspends that certification then the site would be operating outside of the law. 

  • moulesy
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    edited May 2020 #17

    I said "clarify" not justify if you read my post carefully. undecided

  • EasyT
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    edited May 2020 #18

    Perhaps they do not feel the need to clarify in that case. Although I thought that the fact there were reports of vans on site was clear enough for me 

  • moulesy
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    edited May 2020 #19

    Sorry I'm not going to get involved in verbal nit picking with you again, Alan. I think my original post was perfectly clear. frown

  • EasyT
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    edited May 2020 #20

    You seem to get engaged in nitpicking my posts regularly M

  • moulesy
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    edited May 2020 #21

    "Sigh" frown

  • no one
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    edited May 2020 #22

    I didn't realise that , thanks, maybe I should read up on CL's and CS's so I am better informed. wink

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited May 2020 #23

    If you really want chapter and verse, I think you'll find it on the Natural England website. There again, you could watch paint dry😂