Corona Virus Concerns
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Whilst holidaying abroad in January Mrs SF developed an URI and had to have a Doctor attend to her. Two weeks later I had it mildly but developed a slight fever. No mention by doctors of any quarenteening needed. No mention of CV19. We too wonder.
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So much work to do, even if the test shows antibodies how long will they last and is the person still able to pass the virus on even if they are immune? My son and his family have had Covid 19, can they get it again at a later date? Still a step forward though and with hundreds of different places working on developing a vaccine there is hope for that as well. I remember my Mum saying how, when she was young they dreaded diphtheria and then of course polio, now we barely think of it. Scientists are amazingly clever people and I have hope.
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Don't forget Dorset!
its not that visitors aren't welcome or we don't want them, after all visitors provide a high percentage of the regions income.
Its just that the timing is not right, just look at the numbers of daily discovered infections.
the local populace are scared of an influx that would overrun the local hospitals which are small and few and far between. its alright going back to the herd immunity process (hence the travel as far as you like) but a lot of people will be compromised and the fatality rate will potentially drastically increase in these, so far, self protected areas.
However once there is a confirmed safe way ahead such as an immunity test, if it works, there is light at the end of the tunnel giving confidence back to these area's then I am sure visitors will once again be made 'more' than welcome. pasties all round
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But, at what point do you start to welcome people from the outside? We have been told we may have to live with COVID 19 as the prospect for a vaccine seem slim, at least in the short term. We can't live in lockdown for ever and even those of us that have shut ourselves away for the last couple of months will eventually have to emerge into the outside world. I think if certain parts of the UK continue this mantra that outsiders are not welcome it will not only start to suffer financially but will build up a resentment and people will just go anyway as soon as there is any further relaxation. If overseas holidays are restricted this years as seems likely places like the West Country are likely to see far higher levels of tourism than normal regardless of what the locals may think.
David
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Of course DavidK you are correct, if people can't/don't go abroad they will holiday in the UK. Every year in the holiday season it is heaving, you can't move. So the people from London, the Midlands and other areas where they have had a very high rate of infection will come here. Their hospitals did cope ours probably won't. If I had been shielding away the last place I would come in the summer is here, where it gets so packed in an ordinary year. There will be little possibility of social distancing. On our local news the SW MPs are getting together to petition Parliment regarding this but I think there is little we can do.
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Whatever us locals think, our views are not likely to have much effect on people's behaviour now that there is almost a 'do what you like' regime for travel. People will come here regardless of the views of Debsc or myself. Resentment? I doubt the concerns have even reached the ears of most of the populace.
I do wish more was made known about the stretched NHS services in the area along with the lack of lifeguard cover on beaches to look after those who get in trouble.
I think people who live in cities away from tourist areas probably have little concept of what it’s like to be overrun by swarms of tourists at popular times. Crowded shops and car parks and traffic jams become a daily feature and make moving around difficult. It impacts on the lives of every one of us. Yes, the visitors bring income to the area and some businesses rely on that so we normally accept the influx with good grace for the greater good but, at present, not so. Once we are further down the road, visitors will be welcome to return to share the beauty of our area which is, after all, a national asset but we are barely over the peak of infection yet and it would be prudent if people could respect and protect the less infected and less able to cope areas for a while longer. However, I resign myself to the inevitable but appreciate the compliance of the folk who have stayed away so far.
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Oh how we do forget having to live with non vaccine illnesses!
My mum's eldest brother, born 1925 went swimming in the river with a friend when about 11 or 12, should have paid more attention!, friend caught polio uncle was fine. It's all rather random and depends on an individual as none if us are 100% alike.
Early last year a friend who lives in Northumberland was really poorly, for months, no taste no smell on top of other symptoms various tests but nothing identified with hindsight, a fantastic thing, we all wonder if that's what she had, possibly her mum too who did die. Her husband did have it this year and they lived together without any additional cleaning protocols 😱 but she didn't catch it or any symptoms from him. Immunity from whatever she had 12 months before?
I'm more concerned about mixing now than previously, because of the woolly guidelines, I can get our cleaner to come in and clean but our son can't visit!! However I'm glad we an go and collect our puppy next week, hopefully before we get locked in again 😉, and catch a glimpse of our son maybe DIL in the round robin trip. That'll be us sorted then as regards trips! Luckily we are now getting regular delivery slots for groceries and I go for a walk very early in the morning if I go at all. Thank goodness for our garden. Puppy socialising will be interesting 😉
We do need to learn to live with it, get the economy moving again etc but I just hope we haven't been locked down only to have it return in much greater numbers and still be overwhelmed. Only time will tell. Perhaps it's all part of 'the plan'???
Stay safe folks
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As a PS to my post up page, I've just heard on the local news that a decision has been taken to cancel the Christmas harbour lights at Mousehole this year.
The display attracts around 40k visitors to the village each year and the decision to cancel the display had been taken to protect local people.
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I agree with all you say, I also live in a very beautiful area, not as beautiful as yours, our beaches are mainly pebbles, thankfully, it does help to keep the numbers down, however, i do feel for those who are not so lucky as to live in a seaside or country area and want to get out of the confines of a 10th floor apartment etc.
I think that a lot of people who do not think this is for real should be made to watch the 2 hospitals programmes on BBC2 this week, it is not just catching this terrible virus that is the problem, it is the way in which it makes people so very ill leading to a very painful death.
I dont think there is any easy way out of this for anybody, i shudder when i see all those people going to work packed on the London underground, and thank my lucky stars that i do not have to do that, but if they survive can we deny them a couple of days relaxing on the beach?.
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EastEnders and Top Gear to resume filming in June, BBC says
oh good we've saved
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I agree that tourist places will undoubtedly be overwhelmed, let's hope they dont burden the NHS!
Regardless of whether foreign travel will be allowed folks are planning and booking in some cases. Their choice.
I thought it bizarre that proposed quarantine would exclude France. But what frightened me more was to hear from friends about folks they know planning to travel via France to avoid quarantine if they travel further afield. That didn't even cross my mind 😱.
To me we just need consistency and enforcement. 🤐🤐
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I too feel for those who live in those circumstances, Ruffs, and I understand fully their desire to get out.
I hope in times to come we will see people be able to move freely and do what they’ve always done. Just give us a bit of space and time and we'll hopefully be able to open up the attractions for all. Then those visitors will be able to stay with us rather than just making day trips.
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I'm not holding my breath about folks being sensible and thinking of others 😢.
Another email from our storage, we don't have a motorhome at the moment so concerns us not. Saying that it will now be completely closed for access, it has been open up until yesterday, indefinitely because of multiple visits - its access barrier so can check visitors, and non social distancing.
They walk amongst us generally and our hobby has it's fair share too 🤐
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You will be relieved to hear that the Tour of Britain has been cancelled as well for this year, that would have brought thousands down as well, us included. A huge shame, as with other events, but a wise decision. Providing all is safe, they intend using same routes next year.
Having been ill in Cornwall, I have absolutely no hesitation is endorsing just how overwhelmed Cornish Health Service can get with tourists. Local services are intended to be just that, set up to look after locals. It’s a hell of a trek from Lands End to Truro on a hot sunny day when the roads are at a standstill. And a very long wait when you get there. Comes as a huge awakening to those of us with a big hospital on our doorstep.
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The message from people ( not politicians) in the country/tourist areas is "Its too soon for a relaxation". The still high death figures (5/600 per day) scares us. There are no parking/ Toilet/Cafes etc open. Just a few extra people needing NHS treatment in rural areas could tip the balance. From where I live the nearest A& H and hospital is 47 miles away. Lets just be patient for a little longer to see meaningful drop in death rates. Get testing sorted to allow tracing and the antibody tests proved. We will have no problem welcoming tourists once we feel safe.
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“Having been ill in Cornwall, I have absolutely no hesitation is endorsing just how overwhelmed Cornish Health Service can get with tourists. Local services are intended to be just that, set up to look after locals.”
Then do you not think that it is time someone in authority realised this and made more provision knowing that they get an influx of visitors.
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I think we cannot change what has happen re the rules we have here.
As always in life you have look after yourself and give the idiots a wide berth. Perhaps that's the plan, get them to self destruct and leave the sane ones behind?
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But I'm sure they've some fantastic virus story lines
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Do you not think that every year our small main hospital asks for help with this. They have to deal with locals and all the extra holidaymakers in A &E complaining about the long waiting time. Each year our police force asks for funds and extra staff to deal with the influx. It has never been forthcoming.
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There will be car parks open in the lake District - but no toilets or cafes.
Respect our communities SLDC says (and plan ahead)
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I can confirm the reality of being ill in Cornwall. From 1985 until 1992 I had the best ever job of my life working in the very busy Treliske and City Hospitals in Truro - full title was Royal Cornwall Hospital (Treliske and City). The Spring and Summer months were non stop as I used to say that we cared for half the population of Birmingham during that period.
My wife and I used to recover by having three weeks holiday with the caravan in France starting from 1st September.
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Things have moved on a lot since then, Q. For instance, the City hospital no longer exists and some community hospitals, such as Fowey, have closed.
What remains constant is the pressure during winter illness peaks and summer holiday times when it’s a frequent occurrence for ambulances to queue outside A&E because they can’t unload patients into the already full department.
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