Corona Virus Concerns
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"25 years working as a Trading Standards Officer"
Hi DEBSC,Ah! is this why you cant find a plant supplier-they all remember you?!!
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as i said, i dont make the rules and the rules arent clear enough to say this is 'wrong'....
there are certainly arguments for and against and this article puts some points over to support both sides.
my own view is that (exclusive) deliveries of non essential items could easily be lumped in with 'non essential travel'.
if i was taking a few plants over to my dad's i know that i would be in trouble if caught....even if i adopted all the same 'safe practices' the delivery driver does...
if im doing 'one drop' and hes doing 'over 100' (amazon) whos causing the biggest risk....
as i say, i know how the rules apply to me and i stick to them, but its a moot point about what 'essential' products are being delivered by many drivers doing many miles and should this be 'allowed'.
the govt have decided not to explicitly exclude this from 'the rules' but there is certainly a moral case for not having vans belting around all over the place...
as it happens, im far more concerned about keeping myself/OH safe and one of those things is mot to have deliveries to the house, plenty of time for all that later.
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I also work in Newcastle city centre. As an independent Opticians (with the contract for Tyne & Wear fire service and a large number of RVI staff on our patient list), we had to stay open to offer emergency/essential eye care after the lockdown. I was chosen as "skeleton staff" along with the boss and one other staff member.
I was amazed by how many (especially elderly) people were wandering up and down Northumberland Street every day! Hardly anywhere was open, but it didn't seem to stop them....
Thankfully I was furloughed last Monday and the boss is now going in on his own a couple of times a week to deal with any "emergencies".
I applaud you and your wife for the work you're both doing g to benefit the rest of us and wish you well in your unenviable situations.
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sorry, Alan, i wasnt trying to provide a definitive list, just some that were mentioned recently...
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BB look at this way, we are encouraged to exercise, gardening is exercise even if you take a glass of wine while doing it. Cut my lawn today.
peedee
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Family travel to Torquay from London overnight to go fishing! Devon Police stopped them on route sent them home and issued them with fines. A motorhome was turned around and sent back to Bristol. Well done Devon Police, shame that you as still having to deal with idiots.
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"Coronavirus: UK could be 'worst affected' country in Europe" is the prediction on TV this morning. With idiots like the above and what I saw two days ago when I had to visit the Chemist, who would doubt it.
peedee
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And it's not just the obvious idiots travelling long distances.
Walking across the fields and back along the lanes with the dogs this morning a family of 4 was heading towards me. We were on opposite sides of the lane clearly "social distancing". Oldish guy on a bike, all in lycra was cycling up behind them and decided his bike ride was far more important than thinking of others and waiting till we'd crossed so decided to weave between us, spitting onto the verge on his way past!
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We've just had lovely short video clip from the two little girls in our family whose Mum is a consultant. They said Happy Easter to all of us, their Mum is working this weekend. It was very touching, they are so innocent and my thoughts are with all the frontline families. X Keep safe all of you out there and on here. X
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Some of the statistics are very interesting. Take population. Spain, huge country, much small population than Britain. Yet all it’s population tends to be crowded into just 13% of the area, (the rest is very very sparsely populated), so it is in fact, the most densely populated. Parts of UK are the same, and suffering, London, Birmingham. It’s why it’s so important that selfish individuals like the Londoners wanting to go fishing in Torquay should stay away, or why the actions of the MP were so staggeringly selfish. It only takes one person from an infected area to take the virus into a virus free area, and whoosh, away you go.
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When out with Rosa at 1200 on a public footpath across one of our local fields ,we were overtaken by two mountain bike riders and without even a shouted warning,except as they passed , swore at us because we did not get out their way (can you get hi vis with "some of us are hard of hearing " on the back
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However we appear to be the best prepared? I read on the BBC that our NHS has been not overwhelmed as in Italy with still spare bed capacity bed and enough for the peak when it comes?
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I think it's the death rates per million that will show what is happening and then this can be compared with other countries. I still find it hard to believe China's figures compared to Italy when you think of the size of the population in both countries. Maybe there's a genetic link in some places?
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If what is stated ,that we may be heading for the highest fatality rate in europe ,it could just be showing another reason we as a small Island with a very large population, we are living to close to each other in many places , ,ie London pop over 9 million, whole of Scotland just over 5 million
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Sorry, but I have to disagree somewhat with being well prepared. There are still shortages of PPE, even now three weeks on from lockdown, and it’s not just in hospitals. And then there’s the fact that so little testing outside of hospitals is being done. This country doesn’t have the data it needs, because it isn’t testing enough. I think this will become more apparent when it comes to trying to relax some of the lockdown. I cannot compare with other countries as not looked at their statistics other than cases and deaths. I think, hope, that we might get by purely because vast majority have behaved, they did do very well getting the Nightingale hospitals ready, but there’s a lot more to come yet sadly.
Mis communication is rife as well, even from official channels. I cited the Extremely Vulnerable email sent to my phone, with no named person on it. It wasn’t for me, but we now know who it was intended for, but none of the boxes are ticked? And it’s three weeks after lock down date🤷♀️
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no need to be sorry TDA, yes I agree with equipment but perhaps bed and the ability to be treated as best as can be is more important?
From talking to those over there the heath/hospitals service in Italy was/is overwhelmed, many died as Doctors had to chose who could be given treatment and a bed within intensive care and who was made as comfortable as possible. That doesn't (yet) appear to be the case here?
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indeed
Prof Keith Neal, emeritus professor in the epidemiology of infectious diseases at the University of Nottingham, said it was likely the UK would have one of the largest numbers of coronavirus deaths because it had the second largest population in western Europe after Germany.
"The important figure is the death rate per million and not the total number of deaths. On this count Belgium seems to be heading for a serious problem like Italy and Spain," he said
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China is being very secretive about many things, and withholding information that could have (if they wanted?) reduced the effects.
The Secret?Lab that was "investigating?" the connection with horseshoe bats and and viruses like Sars .that was less than a mile from the market ,in Wuhan has been raised to the ground?. "fake news"? or what was not supposed to be allowed out
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Of the 7 million people living in Hong Kong - often in very crowded conditions- there have been just 4 deaths.
The people there are not at all obedient, they have protested in the streets against their government for a long time - but they and the medical system and the authorities were simply better prepared and more efficient.
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