Ever the optimist!
In the very unlikely event of sites being reopened BEFORE 30th June are Club site bookings automatically reinstated or do we have to rebook?
I had a booking at a Club site for mid June made last November, understandably that was scrubbed. In the unlikely event of "lock down" being lifted before mid June do previous bookings still hold good or will I need to join the melee to make a new booking?
TIA
Peter
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I'd not worry about it, Peter. Ask the question of the club if it happens but I'd stake 6 months pension on it not happening😂😂
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Maybe they'll be just about open by June 2021 so all you'll have to do is change to year.😁
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take the van to Wuhan, theyre open
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l am optimistic, sooner or later the country's got to get back to normal, once all the Nightingale hospitals are up and running and we see a decline of infections we should start to see more movement around the country, ask for Wuhan they are the cause of all this. Ask for China put a trade embargo on that will make them think twice about how they need to be more responsible in dealing with Health and Safety issues. Think positive, l have still got my sites booked for July and through to November. At the end of June we are having a 120 watt solar Panel Fitted and a mini Road Pro Dome By Rhino Installs in Preston, that's how confident l am we will be back on the Road for Summer.
Keep Safe
Heethers
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Just received this from the C&CC. They have already made the decision not to reopen some of their sites this year.
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Peter
I can't speak with any authority on this subject but logic suggests that it would be up to the individual member to rebook as the Club could not be certain that the previously booked sites were still required? Perhaps the best advice is if the site you want is available is to book it. If things are still uncertain by then no doubt it will be cancelled again by either you or the Club.
David
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This is causing some puzzlement on the C&CC forum as its unclear why the sites will remain closed. Perhaps its a staffing issue?
David
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Certainly with the Oldbury Hill ,Slindon and St David’s these are the small cheaper sites with Just 40 to 60 pitches.Say the sites did open July that is only 4 months of income against all outgoings including wages ect.
Slindon even closes end September.
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It seems that the CCC are being far more proactive than CAMC in that there is information about sites closing on their home page. They've already taken the decision not to open some sites at all in 2020 and they're extending membership by the number of months their sites will be closed. 10/10
CAMC website looks no difference and still welcoming you to their sites - unfortunately they're closed! A plea from the DG to keep supporting them and no mention of extending membership when we won't be able to use it for at least three months, possibly longer. 0/10
Come on CAMC start being proactive. It's a members club and we are the members so start engaging with us more.
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I've just been on the C&CC website, can't find a list of the sites that are closed until 2021. I did look at a few of the sites that are to be closed (per SteveL's post) and it clearly tells you once you try to make a booking.
Haven't heard anything from them either, no email or text. Lauder and Jedburgh are both small sites and usually discounted. We would have used Inverewe on our tour of Scotland if the sites are open at the end of summer.
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It’s certainly my reason. Anything else is a fringe benefit, if it actually proves to be a benefit.
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Boroughbridge is normally an all year site but was I believe affected by the extensive flooding in Yorkshire in February/March as you will remember was Rowntree Park where we should have been . Knaresborough and Beechwood Grange were a better substitute looking back now than we thought then.
Can only assume that the damage to the pitches was extensive and it has not been possible to get it fixed or decided to do more other work.
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You are using this site, you receive the magazine, you expect to have a phone call to the club answered, you have to pay for these services. I`ve just had a full refund without argument for a trip to Spain due this month so its worth the odd few pounds to maintain the excellent service we`ve had from the CAMC for over 22 years.
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It didn't used to be, brue, but only had a single warden/site manager the times we were there.
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I haven't thought this through fully, but my gut reaction to Peter's original question about what will happen should sites re-open before the end of June may not be straightforward and will need some careful thought and working out. If all bookings were reinstated automatically I can see that might create problems for some.
If you have booked (as I have done) a CAMC site as one site in a series of sites, in order to go away on an extended holiday beginning in June, then one booking effects another. My booking at the beginning of July (at a non-club site), depends on me staying on a Club site at the end of June. If the Club opens its sites, but others do not (or vice versa), then a travel sequence could easily be disrupted - it all depends on how much notice we have.
If the Club (or anyone else, for that matter) decides to open sites last minute, they could find themselves in a position where pitches are booked and no-one will turn up.... and then because pitches are booked, others can't book them. I guess it could depend on how much notice the Club is able to give, and whether folk have the time to cancel/ re-organise within the announcement and the a total opening - will we have more than 72 hours notice?
Then there are folk who will assume that the bookings will be re-instated, or will assume that the booking will be cancelled..... Personally, after saying that sites will be closed until the end of June, I would stick to it and not open - that takes away any confusion!
I guess the whole situation change so quickly, it is difficult to predict what is going to happen next week, let alone at the end of June. Personally, I'm just getting through one day at a time and I'd be pleased enough to get through the whole thing relatively unscathed!
Keep safe and well, everyone.
David
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I guess the whole situation change so quickly, it is difficult to predict what is going to happen next week, let alone at the end of June. Personally, I'm just getting through one day at a time and I'd be pleased enough to get through the whole thing relatively unscathed!
sorry i lost the thread of your post after the first sentence but picked it up again at the last paragraph which for me is the most relevant, and i am sure that for millions of people if we do come out of lock down any time soon, and soon for me is probably not until May, then i am sure the majority will be more concerned as to how they can get their lives back together again, not whether they can fit in a 2 month tour in their caravan.
For me the club should cxl all bookings for this year, open fully when safe to do so, not piece meal e.g. only 50 units on sites which has been suggested, and not because it makes financial sense to do so and then hopefully progress into a normal years operation in 2021.
Right now all that concerns me is keeping safe, if my caravan does not turn a wheel until next spring who cares being around for that day is much more important.
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I am sure they will be more concerned as to how to get there lives back together. Although I would see September as a more realistic start to exit. When that time comes it will be important to get the economy moving again. For a lot of places that means tourism. Keeping the Sites shut until 2021, if it was safe to open them even in a limited way, is not going to help that recovery.
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I am not advocating keeping the sites shut until 2021, open in 2020 when it is safe to do so, but i dont see how restricting numbers is going to work, e.g. if they open in august and lots of sites are full as per the booking system, who is going to decide who to bump off ?, also many sites close mid to end of October so is a couple of months revenue going to be such a big deal after 4 or 5 months of closure.
May be the club should be looking ways to reduce overheads, e.g. i assume that all sites currently have sitting wardens doing some work but not a lot, in some areas it may be possible for 1 set of wardens to manage 2 or 3 sites whilst they have no punters, e.g. areas such as the New Forest region, yes it would mean some wardens being laid off for the duration, and the club may have to let them reside on site as their LV, for some is their primary abode, but they wont be alone, everybody is making sacrifices it is the name of the game right now.
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in some areas it may be possible for 1 set of wardens to manage 2 or 3 sites whilst they have no punters, e.g. areas such as the New Forest region, yes it would mean some wardens being laid off for the duration
but according to some, it's as much work to manage an empty site as it is a full site.
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but according to some, it's as much work to manage an empty site as it is a full site
well right now, there must be millions of people out there who would give their right arm to be self isolating in a beautiful area and having to to do what i would have thought would be minimal amounts of work & getting paid for it, i assume they also get lecce free, whats not to like,
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The bump off is easy, same rules as always, last in first out. I wasn't thinking so much about the revenue for the CC but for the local economies where the sites are situated. Opening dates can be extended. If they are planning related I can't see local councils being against, they are going to want the money visitors bring.
Of course it has to be safe to do so, but a restricted opening, and the revenue it would bring in for the latter part of the year, could mean the difference between local businesses surviving or going under
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