Lend your outfit to the Local NHS Trust?
Testing the water.
We have seen many pictures of NHS staff grabbing a rest on trollies or spare stretchers. I for one would not hesitate to loan my motorhome to the staff so that they could get a peaceful break even if it were only for 10 minutes.
What think you? I know most of us treasure our homes on wheels and there would probably be insurance issues but can you imagine, during a twelve hour shift, being able to go somewhere comfortable and quiet for a cuppa and a lie down?
Many of us cannot do a lot to help but something like this would be a tremendous support for our NHS key workers.
Can we have a vote to see what the feeling would be?
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certainly not, they are in the highest risk to catch it (and after seeing 3 doctors sitting next to each other shoulder to shoulder yesterday giving an interview) there is no way I would lend them anything due to the risk. And TBH they are in no way snowed under just yet and hopefully they will not if we all stay in to stop the spread but no doubt they are busier than normal or more stressed etc.
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Much as I applaud Arty's sentiment and agree the NHS staff deserve our support, it is with regret that I find myself aligning with the fears of MT.
I've experienced at first hand today some of the chaos being experienced by nursing staff and they have my very best wishes.
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Yes a fine sentiment but perhaps too impractical for some?
I did see a report on The BBC site that reported of a hospital doctor being asked to leave by his landlady where he stays midweek.
I hope perhaps local (to hospitals) hotels could open their doors free to save NHS staff too much travelling between shifts?
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Just to update. I have already agreed to loan my motorhome to an ICU worker who is afraid to bring the virus home to her mother who is asthmatic.
I totally get the feelings and argument about not doing such and do not blame anyone who had reservations.
Imagine though, if you were the next one to use the hotel room after an NHS worker? How would you know? And sorry MichealT there are areas of the country that are totally overwhelmed with this. We wouldn’t be building a 4000 bed unit in London if that were not the case.
There is no right or wrong and I am not in the business of maligning people. I am happy that I have done what I can to help an NHS professional and also happy that I too am a key worker in another role.
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Good for you and well done, but I am sure that in my many visits to hotels there have been far worse people to have had that room before me than an NHS worker.
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Not at all I meant both parts.
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Veering slightly off topic, but a stark contrast to Arty's incredibly kind gesture.
The Guardian has a report that muggers in Lewisham have targeted NHS Staff at the start and end of their shift, trying to steal their NHS ID Passes so that the muggers can obtain the free refreshments and ffood offered by various Retailers, as well as gaining priority access to Supermarkets.
Those muggers should have 'not eligible for NHS Treatment under any circumstances' tattooed across their foreheads and then made to pay for the tattoo.
Steve
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there are areas of the country that are totally overwhelmed with this.
Not according to the chief medical officer on Boris's briefing this evening, at the moment the NHS is less busy that it would normally be at this time of year. Maybe down to lots of people who would normally go to A&E or walk in centres not actually needing attention and going elsewhere, could be not so many going out so less accidents etc. I don't know and he did not give any details as to why.
As for the Excel centre I said 2 weeks ago they should be building army field hospitals around the country to cope if it does take off and it is likely to in the next couple of weeks according to the CMO on the same briefing. I guess large cities will be worse hit due to close proximity of people and that more live in shared buildings similar to what we ahve seen in Europe.
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Artyboo yours was such a kind gesture to an Intensive Care worker, those who can make such gestures are to be applauded. I know how busy they are because we have a young consultant in the family working with very seriously ill people suffering from other health problems and now they have to cope with Covid19 cases on top of this. I'll be thinking of you all over the coming months.
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I can't see a problem with this. Even if outfit iscontaminated don't think virus would survive for very long after they stopped using it. Going to be a long time before we can use our outfits again. Can't access mine, storage closed till further notice.
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and why can't hotel rooms and surfaces be similarly sanitised?
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We have 2 people in the vulnerable category out of 3 living in the same house. We have agreed that if the non vulnerable person, to whom we other 2 are relying on to provide food and medical supplies, shows any symptoms of the virus then the caravan will be the self isolating unit.
To that end we have already packed emergency supplies of clothing and medication, made the caravan ready with gas etc. ready for turning on etc.etc.
Whilst applauding the sentiment I really cannot see many complying with the request. Well done to any that do.
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yes, hope not too, but surely many will not be doing too much business now?
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Just in case you haven’t seen enough on TV here is a reminder of what they have to wear at work. So if you haven’t got anything positive to say then don’t say anything at all.
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Apparently, this is the scene at Blackburn Royal Hospital at the moment. I have no idea how they are doing it without electricity or water.
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Just to update. I have already agreed to loan my motorhome to an ICU worker who is afraid to bring the virus home to her mother who is asthmatic.
What a lovely generous thing to do Artyboo. We don't keep the van on our drive so no chance of us doing so unless hospitals make land available. BTW as a matter of interest did you inform your insurance company and what was their response.
I see yesterday that Avia are giving health workers free car insurance for this period
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Thank you Rocky, your support means a lot.
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I am sure all those considered essential workers are doing a great job, but anyone working for the NHS or as care workers has my special gratitude. I sincerely hope that unlike those poor health staff in Italy, it does not come down to a situation of having to choose who can live and who can die. That’s the difference these staff might have face, in unprecedented numbers.......
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Just a thought on this , but if your motorhome is on finance then technically you don’t own it ,so do you have to contact the finance company to ask them ?
Personally I would not loan my out as I feel that it could get complicated if something went wrong or damage occurred
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I think there are all sorts of questions, Husky, such as the insurance position and whether gas/electric tests are needed as the van is no longer being utilised for personal use. I hope there’s a simple way around it for those generously lending their vans.
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A [very] rough and ready analogy is the Government's instruction to ABI [Insurance Body] not to decline claims under house and car policies where the proposer had declared 'not using home for business use' or 'not using car for other than social, domestic and pleasure' purposes, because the 'lockdown' and imposed stay at home was not something that the insured could or should have foreseen.
The CMA [Competition and Markets Authority] have indicated that they will be monitoring this area and will be reminding insurers of their responsibilities when/if necessary.
The Government has set the tone and has wiped out consumer competition protection between large companies, waived the legislation on drivers' hours etc , whilst lauding [rightly] the NHS staff commitment to the nation. The Press would have a field day and a half if given the opportunity to broadcast the hypocrisy of Government were it not to extend similar flexibility 'to those grateful citizens who did their bit to help the hard working NHS staff' etc etc.
Simple protections like a 'Not for Reward' Declaration on the Owner of MH, requirement to have a Safety Certificate within last 2 years for Gas & Electric and a [comparatively] small government Compensation Scheme to pay for accidental damage [which would be a damn sight cheaper than providing more conventional staff accommodation support].
The current mantra is 'we can do this' rather than finding reasons not to support initiatives and arty's gesture deserves to be supported.
I don't have a MH, but if I did, I would be happy to follow Arty's lead; and, if there was some damage and I had to cough up [no pun intended] a couple of hundred £ [which I would have spent had our cancelled holiday gone ahead], then that would have been my contribution to the campaign to beat Coronavirus. I have no medical expertise or similar, but I can chip in financially. But, over the last 3 years or so, I have been like a Season Ticket Holder at our local hospitals, so I would only be giving a small sum back!
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Thanks, Steve. That leaves the question of technical testing.
Incidentally, I’m not looking for excuses or reasons not to do this as I’ve already given my personal view on that and financial issues form no part whatsoever of my decision. My thoughts were of possible legal pitfalls which might affect those who do choose to do it.
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