CL advice in current situation

TheStens19
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edited March 2020 in Certificated Locations #1

Anyone know what advice Caravan Club has given to CL Owners?

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  • BirchHillFarmCL
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    edited March 2020 #2

    Assuming that you mean the Coronavirus - as a CL Owner, I have received no advice from the Club.

    We are keeping an eye on the news and will adapt as commonsense dictates.  Our CL is open as normal, and we have guests on-site at present.  The only difference is that we are maintaining more of a social distance from our guests.

    We do not have a toilet / shower block, so our guests are self-contained and welcome to self-isolate if they wish. 

    For those who wish to join us, we are in a nice rural area, with pleasant views and our guests find our free Wi-Fi very useful for keeping in touch with family.

    All the Best,

    Ian Kelly

    01691 622951
    Holiday@BirchHill.co.uk
    Birch Hill, The Cross, Ellesmere, Shropshire, SY12 0LP
    www.BirchHill.co.uk

    Birch Hill Farm - an award-winning hideaway in the beautiful lake-lands of Shropshire for members of the Caravan and Motorhome Club

  • CholseyGrange
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    edited March 2020 #3

    The club is (for the moment) keeping Club sites open.  They have not advised CLs to either close, or stay open.  They respect our rights as independent businesses to make that decision ourselves, based, of course, on Government Advice.  

    Interpretation of that advice seems to differ depending on your stance and which bits of advice you listen to / understand.  On the one hand the Chief Medical Officer suggests that enjoying the countryside, getting exercise etc. is beneficial for mental and physical health during this stressful time.  Other advice recommends not travelling (although the current specific advice relates to public transport). 

    Many members seem to feel that a caravan or motorhome is an ideal place to keep away from hordes of people, others feel that if they visit tourist hotspots (like Cornwall) that have limited healthcare facilities they could be contributing to a burden.

    As the club has chosen to keep club sites open, many CLs are following their lead, but around 20% (so far) seem to be closing.

    The club did write (by email) to CL owners this week and advise us that;

    • The CL team is working from home, but will support us as best they can.
    • They understand the challenges we face, including the lack of income for 2020.
    • They will not get involved in decisions about the carrying-forward of bookings or return of deposits.
    • They will update CL information pages on the Club Website regarding closures / changes of facilities offered etc.

    Let's all hope that the promised Govt. support means that CLs can weather this storm.   

    One thing is for sure, when this has all blown through, the CL network will need the support of members even more.

  • PATMAU
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    edited March 2020 #4

    People urged not to visit Cornwall amidst coronavirus outbreak SITES SHOULD BE CLOSED

     

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2020 #5

    The PM’s advice to stay at home is paramount.

  • PATMAU
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    edited March 2020 #6

     SITES MUST CLOSE WE MUST GET THIS TROUGH TO PEOPLE  WHO RUN THE CLUB

    MJAB

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2020 #7

    "The government has also urged the public to take further steps to protect themselves and the wider population from the coronavirus, including:  

    Everyone to stay at home unless they need to get essential supplies such as food and medicines. "

    The above is the latest from the Govt. That means everyone to stay at home. It doesn’t mean sites of all descriptions can carry on irresponsibly encouraging visitors because those potential visitors should stay at home. Sites must close for the good of all. 

    Cholsey, you are amongst the irresponsible.

  • brue
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    edited March 2020 #8

    I sincerely hope the club now understands what stay at home means and stops looking for loopholes....loopholes endanger lives.

    The whole of the SW and other holiday areas cannot cope with an influx of holiday makers transporting the virus.

  • Oneputt
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    edited March 2020 #9

    Can you please stop shouting

  • brue
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    edited March 2020 #10

    To be honest, if there was a megaphone on here for the CAMC I think one of us might use it!  wink

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2020 #11

    Only one of us?😂

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2020 #13

    "Until the Government issues comprehensive and linked instructions, democracy demands that individuals remain free to make decisions that others might find objectionable."

    I don’t disagree with that, Steve, but when people are told to stay at home and not undertake unnecessary travel is irresponsible. It may not yet be unlawful but it surely cannot be condoned.

  • eyebrowsb
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    edited March 2020 #14

    For those of you who wish to stay at home, please do so, if you feel that is necessary, but please don't try to influence CL's that you have no intentions of visiting.

    CL's may well be a place of sanctuary for NHS and other urgent care employees, to relax for a few days ..... bring their own supplies, use their own facilities.  

    We are well aware of the risks and are responsible people, but we will use CL's as long as they're open!

  • Vanbirds68
    Vanbirds68 Forum Participant Posts: 149
    edited March 2020 #15

    Which bit of STAY AT HOME don’t people understand?
    It’s not about YOU - it’s about S P R E A D I N G the virus. You don’t know if you’ve got it or are carrying it. The club won’t give advice to CL owners anymore than they could give me a straight answer about sites staying open. Wealth before health - whoever coined that phrase was spot on.

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited March 2020 #16

    The Club have announced that all Club Sites and CL's will close, details in the latest post in this thread https://www.caravanclub.co.uk/club-together/discussions/sites-touring/uk-sites-touring/coronavirus-covid-19-uk-campsites The Club are contacting all CL's but the very nature of the CL network I expect this might take a day or two for the information to reach all CL's.

    David

  • peedee
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    edited March 2020 #17

    I'm a little surprised they can instruct CLs to close after all they are independent. Was it a mandatory request? I guess the only sanction that could be imposed is withdrawal of certification.

    Have the Clubs been forewarned of the Govenment's intention to close all touring campsites? I shall watch the news with interest.

    peedee

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2020 #18

    Exactly, PD. If the exemption certification is suspended, the CLs will be operating illegally without planning consent. That should focus the minds of owners.

  • GTrimmer
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    edited March 2020 #19

    This move by the club has effectively removed the major benefit of membership from us for at least three months.

    How do the club intend to redress this ?

  • JVB66
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    edited March 2020 #21

    £13.50 refund ,or voucher to use on club site when open againwink

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2020 #22

    Redress it? Perhaps they'll sue the Chinese on your behalf🙄

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited March 2020 #23

    There’s always one😡 You don’t need a bank account in a grave, suggest you reprioritise at the moment and then try and claw back the few pounds you so desperately need. Providing you are still around to do so of course. Club have got larger worries and priorities at the moment I am sure. Blunt, but politeness is falling on a lot of deaf ears at the moment.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited March 2020 #24

    It’s a good job bad language is banned on here, I could do with letting off steam at the moment.......🙄

  • moulesy
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    edited March 2020 #25

    Go on ...... we won't tell, no one will know, give it your best! wink

  • cody
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    edited March 2020 #26

    Can't blame people for wanting to get away from the towns and cities,  they're scared,  guess the one's living on residential sites are all right Jack.

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2020 #27

    If the club cannot provide the contracted service why should they not refund the money as any other company might? I personally am not concerned on that front and so I am just saying as it is. 

    The site that my daughter has a holiday static on are not permitting non owners in the present crisis and she has repaid any deposits where able. One couple actually gave her a cash deposit on their last visit having used her static a few times before and have refused to accept a refund saying that they will use her again when this blows over and that she is to use the deposit and they will happily pay a deposit next time. 

  • davetommo
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    edited March 2020 #28

    Minus the cost of the magazine

  • JVB66
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    edited March 2020 #29

    cool

  • cody
    cody Forum Participant Posts: 123
    edited March 2020 #30

    Bad choice to cancel the hard copy with toilet paper being in short supply 

  • Linksdale
    Linksdale Forum Participant Posts: 32
    edited March 2020 #31

    Nobody is blaming the club, G Trimmer has a point of view which may be shared by the many Seasonal Pitch holders who have paid in the region of £2000 each, up front before the sites were even opened! This closure represents a pro rata loss of approx £800. Legitimate question to ask about refunds.