A new Security Scheme for your pride and joy!
Hi folks, not often I post these days but I wish to make you aware of a new scheme that has appeared over the past few days which is designed to make your vehicles whether Caravan or Motorhome more secure. I will simply give a link at this stage. You will find everything you need to know there. The guy behind this is an ex police officer, Bryan Connelly, who has thought long and hard about how we, as owners of these vehicles can fight back against those low lifes that would deprive us of our leisure time.
https://caravanid.co.uk/cid-explained/
Please, I ask you to look at this. If we can get together and put thousands of more eyes checking caravans and Motorhomes on the road, we all benefit. Thank you.
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At a quick glance it looks like a good idea. Thanks for the heads up.
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It sounds a bit complicated and I think the flaw in the idea is it is reliant on the public spotting a stolen van. If you were driving behind a caravan would you bother to check whether it was legit? If just out and about would you bother checking that every van you saw was not stolen? Even if you checked the odd one or two, what are the chances they are stolen?
I think most people would be minding their own business
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The concept seems good but to work it needs a lot of data to be given up and a lot of data to be shared and that in itself has many dangers. One way of getting round that might be to "sell" the scheme to an insurer or insurance body who already have the infrastructure and compliance background to process data as well as established links with law enforcement.
i don't want to rain on anybody's parade and I do understand that this is just floating a concept but I am a little surprised by the badge used for the proposed corporate identity of the scheme.
It would appear to closely resemble that of The Civil Nuclear Constabulary and they may not be too pleased about that.
Additionally the use of what appears to be a Royal Crown (as opposed to any old crown shape) may well be unlawful.
In any event has a quasi-police identity been chosen ? Is this intended to imply a connection with the police or officialdom ?
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As stated on another forum where the initiative was also presented, there are open GDPR issues associated with its implementation.
It seems to be duplicating CRIS just for the sake of having larger stickers which could just as easily be integrated into the CRIS system.
Another system, which would be equally effective would be to register caravans with their own number plate in the same way as motor vehicles, just as they do on the Continent, where caravan thefts are almost unheard of. In the 30-odd years that I've been caravanning on the Continent I've never even possessed a lock of any sort for my caravan. Of course, one can argue that one can replace the number plate with a fake one, but a simple check would reveal that the number wouldn't tie up with the registered vehicle. The stickers that CID is suggesting can equally be superimposed with fake numbers. Registering caravans would have the added advantage of allowing any caravan to be towed by any vehicle, so one wouldn't have to change its number plate when you change the car.
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Hi guys, CRIS has been mentioned and compared to this scheme. When has CRIS ever stopped the scumbags from stealing our vans? This is about an active and alert caravanning public using an app on a phone etc to determine whether the caravan is stolen. Seconds to get the information! Marking that are difficult to remove . Matching reg no’s with the caravan. Etc, This scheme won’t stop the thefts but it might, given support and countenance from the caravan and Motorhome owning public, stop some being stolen or, if stolen, a far greater chance of them being spotted on route from the theft. The police have been contacted and they are aware of what we are trying to do and the logos used. The plain fact is, if we don’t do something we are all going to pay the price either through our insurance premiums or with a stolen van! It’s so easy to look at then negatives and complain. See it for what it is- a genuine and honest attempt to try and involve everyone who owns a leisure vehicle. I know this, I would rather have hundreds of thousands of potential eyes looking for these vans than what we have now- an overstretched Police Force and a system that is only useful for recovery- when it’s too late. Please support Bryan in this effort. Thanks.
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We would never sanction use of a phone when driving but voice activated software through Siri or the android equivalent is perfectly possible. The technology is there guys, if the will is there, we can make life for these low life’s much more difficult.
There are many ideas in the pipeline to improve caravan and Motorhome security but without your support, it won’t see the light of day. The FB group is purely at the moment, a forum for gathering information and for showing support.
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If you're looking at stickers on caravans and phoning while on the move, even with a hands-off system, you aren't concentrating on the road. A potential hazard, if you ask me. Besides, only caravanners who have bought into the scheme will have any idea of what it's all about so it's pretty meaningless to other road users.
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This is a cracking idea - I have, in the past considered putting markings on the roof of our caravan in order that should it be stolen it can be easily seen from the air, cctv, drones etc. but not yet got round to it - genuinely.
I have read the information on the linked web site and without a doubt this would certainly deter some criminals even thinking about stealing your pride and joy. As a retired Crime Scene Manager I know from experience that with easily identifiable markings those who would normally not think twice about taking the ‘van’ most certainly would when they realise all those numbers are an identification marker and someone might just run the number culminating in them talking to the Police (and they don’t like talking to the Police for some reason).
Having 40 years experience in the Police service I would certainly support and recommend this product and I for one will be e-mailing the proprietor of this venture to offer my services.
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I’m looking at some of the negative responses to this proposed project and my thoughts for those who wish to be so negative are -
don’t get involved, don’t subscribe and oh, don’t bleat too much when your van gets nicked and no one can spot it when it’s travelling down the M5
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Believe me, Happy, if someone nicks my van, I don’t want it back. There won’t be any 'bleating' from me.
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