Illegal charging of electric cars
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I think that is a nonsensical answer. What effect does having bathroom or room facilities have on inclusive electricity? I'll ask again PD:
What facilities are you talking about? A bathroom? How does that make any difference to the analogy of an all inclusive electricity price? would you care to explain how it does?
You expect in a hotel and would use, heating (which may be electric), AC,(definitely is) and electrical power to use all those things you would use in a caravan.
You certainly would not expect to be metered ? would you?
So yes it is exactly the same, and exactly the same for an all inclusive holiday or meal
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No,
I pay for a room at an hotel with inclusive electricity
I pay for a pitch at a campsite with inclusive electricity.
I really fail to see any difference in inclusive electricity? Do you?
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You are making statements totally out of context of my original point in that the Club was being hypocritical in intrducing an optional charge for electric vehicles but refusing to allow an optional charge for EHU.
I repeat there is no way you can compare hotel packages to site pitch packages because you do not tote around alternative sources of energy into a hotel room. There again, perhaps you do, but no sensible person would.
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Never a bad thing to spend just a moment thinking things out before acting on assumptions.
With e bikes in this case, it is strange how anyone could believe battery technology has so massively advanced that a bike could take more than a very small amount of energy from the electricity supply?
Even the casual thinker IMO ought to realise there is a huge difference in the masses involved , hence the energy requirements between a bike and a car, or am I expecting too much?
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You are making statements totally out of context of my original point in that the Club was being hypocritical in intrducing an optional charge for electric vehicles but refusing to allow an optional charge for EHU.
Maybe because Cornersteady does not agree and neither do I. The caravan club product, on their sites, is a pitch with EHU. If somebody really does not want EHU it may not be their best choice. Other products are available.
The option of plugging in a full EV is a bit of a red herring. I say this because I have yet to see one on a site and anybody with a full EV is unlikely to want the service as they will be charging on route and out and about as they travel. The charging of hybrids is more likely and by levying a cost it makes other site users feel that charging such vehicles is not at their expense. I have no idea whether hybrid owners will see the charge as reasonable or the service worthwhile as a convenience.
In some ways whether hybrid owners will consider it worthwhile to pay £2 to charge it is a bit akin to paying £4 for the convenience of a serviced pitch. For me it is not worthwhile but for others it is.
I know that some want to avoid paying for EHU (particularly in Summer) but this is not generally on offer with CMC but is with the other club and a proportion of commercial sites. When the CMC first included EHU in pitch fee there were at that time a number, such as me, who did not need it and had no mains system. We accepted that if we were renting a pitch that we paid for something that we did not need unless we upgraded our systems. I suppose that a number of members may have stopped using this club's sites at that time. That was the choice then and it remains that way today.
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Because the have an EV of some kind and it needs energy to power that vehicle off site and could go 100s of miles on that charge. Carvans and Mh once hooked up don't usually go anywhere.
Also doesn't battery charging on site use very little? I arrive with a full charge most trips and I think that most of the EHU is used for heating?
Would you expect a petrol pump at a site to be free just because the pitches themselves have all inclusive electricity?.
I really don't know why you are so bothered about this? Use that site where there is metering (and £30 deposit) that you like and you'll be happy?
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I gather from ploughing through all the above posts that the two new financial charges are for the right to be allowed to electrically charge cars or bicycles on a site, rather than for the electricity used.
Now, I have a solar panel that charges the caravan's batteries, and also an inverter that will run the bicycle charger from a battery. So are the Caravan Club expecting me to pay them £2 a day for the right to use the electricity I have obtained from the sun and kept on hand in my own caravan battery to make a top-of of my bicycle battery? It would appear so!
On the other hand, they cannot apply their financial charges should I have charged my caravan batteries from the site supply, and then put one of them in the back of the Land Rover, along with the inverter and the bike's electical charger and electrically charge the bike battery while I am off site, and then return to replenish the energy in the caravan battery from the site supply.
Alice in Wonderland is considerably easier to understand!
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"I can't be bothered to "penny pinch" unlike a couple of Brits in a new shiny MH I overheard in Portugal pondering whether to pay €1,50 and deciding have it "for just the one night" "
Surely not any (unnamed) member of CT touring "over there" ?!!
(I think the theory is that having a "news shiny MH" is irrelevant to what one chooses to spend pitch wise - I'm sure I've read that somewhere!
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If I want to be self sufficient and use my solar and refillable gas I wouldn’t bother with club sites. I’ve used non facilities/basic CL’s that charge £5 to about £8/night. Last year over there where the sites charged a daily rate for electric didn’t bother with that. There’s always options
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I struggle to understand all the arguing and abuse, like the Swift Talk forum, it always goes of topic and ends in abuse between a few. Lets be civil to one another, it is only a discussion.
The CMC has listened to it members and introduced an interim measure regarding the charging of EV/PHEV, in the future they will have to make plans for the future, especially due the CMC ageing electric infrastructure.
The CMC following the every increasing popularity of motorhomes introduced motorhome empty point, they will probably introduce measures to cater to EV/PHEV
Unfortunately CL's will struggle financially with the demand of EV/PHEV not sure how they are going to deal with it in the future.
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Unfortunately CL's will struggle financially with the demand of EV/PHEV not sure how they are going to deal with it in the future.
Not sure that they will have to deal with it on site. Surely by the point that EV vehicles are truly here the local and national infrastructures will need to be available.0 -
"Abuse" is a bit strong, Oscar. I see disagreements but, if it was truly abuse, I’m sure the mods/Ro would have acted. It’s an oft misused word is abuse.
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