Gas bottles

I choose a couple of 3.9kg bottles ot to save weight but because they are lighter, smaller and easier to take in and out of front locker. I doubt that I am alone

Depends how up to date the site is, I was "advised" by our GP (a caravaner) that  i should have at my age and medical condition a motor mover fitted to our caravan,in all the sites we have visited i have used it the max five times to assist with pitching ,and have not ,as some seem to need, , anything other space than the site road to get on the pitch, so the majority  must ( if capable) be plenty big enough to get onto

ps the one site that the motor mover was essential to get on the pitch (as advised by the staff) was the commercial site in Norfolk ,  the only real problem on the cc network i have found is MIM and that is  only the older part of the site

And you have measured the latest sizes on upgraded/new sites,? average seems, If correct?large enough to take all but the latest wide and length , thats why  i do not have a problem then

The difference? when the two hundred mile trip at Max 60mph there are probably two behind a plastic cover, rather than "coseted"in the  steel safety cage of a car,so how are plastic motor caravan a safer place?

In the tent camping world carrying 907 Gaz containers within cars is all but universal.

Probably you do need to spell out the dangers, if so totally untenable.

But to add balance give the risk parallels with on every journey upto 70 odd litres of gasolene in a plastic tank tucked under the boot and adjacent to the exhaust system.

Like most things, even venturing a motorhome off the drive onto a road, there are associated risk, we just need to minimise them.

I have to admit though I generally get my Gaslights delivered to my home, I have been know to put an empty in the car to get a replacement; I just do so very mindful of what I am doing.

I think the "principal use" is where the insurance is based, a trailer is also mentioned

You have the advantage of me in knowing the locks of other vehicles, but IMO the 11.45 mtre kerb to kerb turning circle of our 4.84 metre LOA D4 seems impressive.

Are any other vehicles of similar length, that are that much more impresive in this regard to warrant your intervention on my vehicle's poor turning preformance?

Also in reverse, steering lock is not going to dominate. Here jack knifing comes critical, and with having a van with about the longest "A" frame available, it puts me at some advantage.

Nevertheless, despite any particular numbers, the fact remains if the unit length precludes driving onto a pitch, then at nearly two tonnes of van, a mover is IMO the "thinking man's" choice.

The nose in is not any reflection of using a LR, I totally fail to understand your linking those points, but the van being continental, particularly it having an off side habitation door.

OH dear  but then if you read posts correctly ?

Makes sense David. Since I caravan in UK nearly all sites carry calor.

Hope you have an lpg sticker on the car the same as you should have on the caravan to indicate that you are carrying lpg

In the years we have been members, and with numerous site staff now in our circle,i cannot remember any sites we have been on that the "wrong side door" c/vans are requested to go nose in ,there have been times when the said owners have asked if the can go "nose in" as their beds are at the front,so nose in gives more "curtain twitching",and watching others on the usual "promenading" that seems to happen

Ready availability of LPG replenishment is always a consideration "over there". I can recall numerous visits to Leclerc for an exchange 907 back in the day. That's one of the big advantages of refillables these days although I acknowledge there are other solutions.