Boxer 'change oil' warning fix
I have a Boxer 2017 2.0 hdi cab on my MH with 3800 miles on the clock. Recently the 'Change Oil' warning came up on the message centre and the red oil lamp light came on and off intermittently.
So checked oil level, looked at the oil for milkiness, both OK. The oil is meant to be changed every 20k or 12 months so looked online.
Found this Youtube fix, which simply involves pressing brake and accelerator with ignition on and tried it. Hey presto - warning cleared so thought I'd share it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOLN4n1agaU
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Amazing what you can find on YouTube. Good tip.
Actually the Boxer should go first two years without any service unless it has changed since 2016 when mine was registered. If you set up your vehicle on the Peugeot website it will confirm the service interval.
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Hi
We bought a brand new Bailey motorhome last year. Hardly any miles on the clock as only done one trip out to Lincolnshire. Just getting it ready for next trip, when we switched engine on "Warning Oil Change", appeared on screen we were totally confued but thanks to this post we have been able to get rid of the message on screen. A great find.
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Hi, I also have a 2017 boxer 2.0 and after a few hundred miles the oil warning light message come on. I took it to my local Peugeot dealer and the mechanic connected his laptop to the van and reset it so the oil warning message went off..........wish I had your tip above at the time 👍
The mechanic said that the dealer should have reset it before it was collected by the buyer as it’s something to do with the time since build and the dealer should have reset it.
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Re-setting warnings is not a good idea because there are at least two kinds of "change oil" warnings and the oil can become degraded by operation of the catalyst doing a forced regeneration.
However I had exactly the same experience in my 2017 Citroen Relay Blue Hdi Euro 6 engine and the dealer who fixed it at no cost blamed the dealer who did the PDI for not having re-set the vehicles service computer at delivery/PDI.
I hadn't the heart to explain that the fixing dealer and the supplying dealer were one and the same !!
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I have a 67 plate Autosleeper Warwick Duo which is a Peugeot Boxer van which is just a year old, It has done 6700 miles and the change oil message has come on. I've reset the warning and the light has stayed off.
I've asked Peugeot and one engineer said change, but another said it was just set to warn after 1 year (the old service interval).
Having read the above i'd be interested to know if what has happened to your vans since you posted? ( at £180 for 6l of oil, a filter and a plug seal it seems expensive, but I don't want a damaged engine!)
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We have a Elddis Peugeot on an 18 plate. Also have the engine oil warning today , oil change not due for another year or more. Tried this fix on u tube and it works. Must be due to build of van 12 months ago but was sold 1/11/18. Marquis needless to say have obviously not re set the oil change date.
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That should read a 68 plate boxer.!
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Bought daughter new corsa a few years ago ,back to dealer all the time flashing lights .plug in machine change loads of bits All not required ,found same as M/M same trick . Saved a fortune she had it for 10 years
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I think it's always a good idea to have some kind of box of electrickery to 'talk' to your car with ... obviously none of them will be able to do as much as the specific dealer kit, but they'll give you a starter for 10. And you can normally buy one for not much more than a garage will charge you for plugging their kit in just once.
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As an Aside MM, a mate of mine bought a 57 plate ML350 last year and purchased an OBD2 reader for it which is make and model specific. About £200 IIRC and reads an awlful lot more than the generic OBD DTC's.
I can contact him and ask him for details if your interested.
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Just out of interest, I have a MoHo built on a Peugeot Boxer BlueHDi 160. My "change engine oil" light came on at 2400 miles / 4 months. It has since been cleared - like many others...
I've come to two conclusions after talking to Peugeot and Motorhome service stations.
1. The reason why there are so many low mileage *change engine oil* messages in the first year is because they haven't been reset at time of pick-up. From what I've been told, the system thinks the vehicle has been doing short trips as the average mileage is below expectation (in a given period) - probably because it spends the first six months just been driven around the convertors premises, driven to show rooms, etc. The vehicle doesn’t have an on-board lab so it's impossible to test the quality of the oil so the message is more of a warning that short journeys "may" contaminate the oil if there's no regular/completed DPF filtration.
2. The service book (and Peugeot) indicates that the oil change (unless specific circumstances) is every 24 months / 25k. I know there are purist (like me) that like to change it annually but the Euro5/6 engines have been vigorously tested and deterioration of the oil hasn't been noticeable up to 20k over any period (google it). I assume engine components are more advanced nowadays and the oil grade/additives have improved to comply with EU regulations. Even if contaminated with diesel, it doesn't affect the lubrication properties of the oil (apparently?).
So in a nutshell, don't be too alarmed if you get a "change engine oil" message at low mileage within first year. And just stick to the recommended 25k / 2 year service interval. Changing the oil annually won't do any harm but it it won't have any major benefits either.0 -
I have had a 19 Plate AS Broadway/Peugeot 160hp for 9 moths now with 2460 miles on it, which has just started flashing the red oil can symbol and showing a 'Change Oil' message on the dash display.
The You Tube 'fix' hasn't worked.
I am reluctant to ignore it, as I plan to tour Spain in just over a month but am miffed that it may take an actual oil change to sort this out - ideas?
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The only thing I can suggest is to take it to a local garage, explain the low mileage, see what they say. An oil change isn't much and it could be argued that even low mileage vehicle should have annual oil changes (SWMBO's car only does 3000 miles a year and has an annual service) The garage will likely have a box of electrickery that will talk to your motorhome and will reset the 'change oil' message
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My light came on at 4200 miles, too. On exactly the anniversary of the vans registration.
Actually, I don't mind changing the oil each year. But obviously, the dealer wasn't willing to do that, wanting to do a full service instead. Which I guess is hardly surprising.0 -
The dealer should be willing to do exactly what you want.
Go to a different garage.
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Wow this has just saved me a lot of effort. My 2019 Boxer had only covered 1800 miles when this came up and I was thinking head gasket issues etc but oil was looking fine. On the point of contacting dealer, I just typed the issue Into google and there it was thanks. So I can report this still affects new vans coming up about a year after manufacture if not reset by dealer at point of sale. I would imagine still applies to Ducati and Relay as all have same dash.
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A lot of vehicles have some way of tell you it would like a service by either using a spanner symbol or a message of some kind. They come up at a set time interval or set mileage, which ever comes first. But remember they do need a service (at least an oil change) .... not just resetting. Low mileage vehicles probably suffer as much as higher mileage vehicles as they often don't get fully hot enough to remove water/condensation from the oil.
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Its ok resetting these warning lights, as long as you understand the vehicles usage.
As mentioned above, short trips or running the engine at idle for long periods can cause the DPF system to go into a self clean which is then terminated before completion when the engine is stopped.
All the fluid and fuel used in the clean is then 'dumped' into the sump via various means, thinning the oil (most modern engines do have a viscosity check of the oil) when the oil is detected as too thin, the warning light is activated. this can normally be seen by the checking the oil level regularly, if the level is seen to increase this could mean a failed DPF clean cycle.
So yes the warning maybe due to a timer but also due to oil breaking down due to failed DPF cleaning.
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Thanks to all that have cemented. I have had the oil changed in mine less than 12 months ago. Within 3 weeks of it being changed the message came up and I did the youtube trick assuming it had not been reset
Last week it was being turned round in a tight space by someone else and the message came back on.
I have done less than 200 miles since the oil change last October.
Should I reset it again or is it garage time
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