Transition from caravan to motorhome

billyandbobby
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edited January 2020 in Motorhomes #1

Hello, I am hoping that fellow motorhomers will be able to give us some useful tips. After many, many years of caravanning we have now taken the plunge and bought a new motorhome. However, after our first season we are seriously thinking of going back to a caravan as we really miss having the car with us (we know this would be financially very painful 😩). We love the motorhome itself and have chosen the size/layout that is perfect for us. We have been thinking about our travels last year and think, perhaps, we are still thinking like caravanners i.e. we book a site and stay there. Any tips much appreciated e.g. planning multiple stops, how to find out if good public transport nearby, useful websites for motorhome tours/information etc. Cheers 

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  • huskydog
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    edited January 2020 #2

    Hi , we changed to a motorhome a few years ago and you have to think and plan a bit different, we only stay on sites for only 3 or 4 days and do mini tours of the area on different sites , we use google to find out about the area ,transport links etc ,we shop when we are out , remember you don’t have to tie yourself to one site ,driving from one site to the next is all part of the holiday. 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited January 2020 #3

    You could tow a car, B&B, as I believe Husky does or you could do as we do in making the journey between sites your sightseeing trip. We deliberately bought a small van with this purpose in mind and find we can take the van almost anywhere.

    We rarely stay on any site for more than a couple of nights and wend our way around dallying here and there between sites. We no longer need to use motorways and boring main routes to get from A to B but can explore the byways and enjoy the countryside as we go.

    Even when staying on a site for a couple of days, we use the MH for tripping around and have not yet had to resort to public transport. We did once hire a car on the IoW when we had a larger MH but had no need to do so with the current van.

  • DavidKlyne
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    We changed from a caravan to a motorhome 6/7 years ago and it does take a while to get out of "caravanning mode". There is no doubt that motorhoming inflicts a level of extra activity on us that we would not have if we had a car available. On the positive side that is surely a good thing especially when your step count goes from under 2000 a day to over 10000!!! You do have to use a motorhome differently to a caravan. Whilst you can stay somewhere for a fortnight it's far better , as HD suggests, to have more shorter stays and perhaps move over a shorter distance. It is also surprising how many campsites there are with reasonably easy access to public transport or even within walking distance of towns and villages, you just have to research a bit more. On my website I add reviews of where we have stayed and highlight those which had such access, see here http://www.davidklyne.co.uk/uk_campsite_new_2_index.html the little motorhome symbol indicates access. We don't take our motorhome off site much but we have done but a bit of prior research will give you ideas on where that is possible depending on size of motorhome. It is possible that you have made the wrong decision but I would suggest trying it for longer and actually working out what find is unacceptable about it and seeing if there are ways around it. I just can't see us going back to towing a caravan, far too stressful for me!!!

    David

  • huskydog
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    edited January 2020 #5

    This website might be useful 

    www.park-my-motorhome.co.uk 

  • EasyT
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    edited January 2020 #6

    When I was on my own aged mid forties I decided that I would retire at 53 and tour in a caravan whilst spending 3 or 4 months converting a short van to suit me over 3 or 4 months - maybe over a couple of years. A larger van not being necessary. Then I started a singles group and a few years later met my present partner. I had not planned on that! We have bought several new caravans over the last 15 years and, being less mobile these days would not consider the the limitations of a large motorhome when driving around. We have no desire in choosing sites for their closeness to public transport or driving to where we can park the sort of size motorhome that we would feel comfortable in over a 7 week break. When we tour we stay 5 nights and move. As we tour in UK hen, for us we would not wish the limitations that a 7m+ van might require. 

  • billyandbobby
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    edited January 2020 #7

    Thanks for all your replies. Will follow up on your tips and plan to carry on for this season. I really hope we can get into new ‘motorhome’ habits as we love our choice of motorhome. Keep moving on seems to be the way to go!

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited January 2020 #8

    Definitely 👍🏻

    Good luck.

  • billyandbobby
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    edited January 2020 #9

    And thank you David for your website info. I have had a quick look and can see this will be really useful 👍

  • peedee
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    edited January 2020 #10

    I changed to a motorhome 18 years ago and there is no way I will go back to a caravan but then I have been towing a car in the Uk for most of that time which does allow a prolonged stay on one site if you so desire. Towing a car does give you the best of both worlds. Worth considering rather than the potential heavy loss of changing back to a caravan.

    peedee

  • cyberyacht
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    edited January 2020 #11

    You haven't said what size your MH is nor whether you tour solely in the UK. Both these things could impact your usage as could the availability of supplementary transport such as a scooter, electric bikes or a towed car. The latter has always seemed to me to rather defeat the object of a switch from a caravan although it is quite popular, certainly in the UK. The continent is far more 'MH friendly' and, as has already been said, lends itself to a more meandering style of touring. I'm starting my third year with the MH and don't see me changing back to towing, not that I ever found towing any big deal. The simplicity of a MH certainly encourages more frequent use than the palaver of hooking up a caravan and setting up the other end.

  • peedee
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    edited January 2020 #12

    It is much easier towing a car than a caravan CY and you always have the option of taking it with you or leaving it. My next two trips out in the UK will be without it, one of three nights and the other of 5. I don't need it at either ot the destinations. I have never taken a car across the Channel but have occasionally hired one when over there.

    peedee

  • Heethers
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    edited January 2020 #13

    We changed last July after losing our two wonderful yorkies. What made us changed, we invested in two electric bikes now the dogs were no longer with us we tried at first to use the van but found it a pain trying to transport the bikes, we also now play at least two golf course when we are away. After 3 months of last year only getting out twice we started to think about changing to a MH. We did the usual thing of checking our local dealerships and decided on the layout that suited us, we purchased a 2015 Autotrail Tribute 625 high level. Since we have owned the MH we have been out ten times more than in the van, we find doing the short breaks less stressful. We can take the bikes on the back and carry two push trolleys and two lightweight golf bags. Admittedly we try and look for sites that are close to a village or town or within riding distance plus a bus route, its surprising how many their are. Up to now after six months of Motorhoming we are finding it far better than having the caravan, it's far less stressful for me, don't get me wrong we had a great time caravaning but now in the twilight of our years its quite delightful to wake up have a look on the web what's available an shoot off for a few days. One thing l wont do is pull a car at the back seems to me it defeats the object, mays as well tow a van

    Heethers

  • SteveL
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    edited January 2020 #14

    We switched from caravan to a MH last March, after several years of reasearching / planning the change. A model of the MH we wanted became available much sooner than we expected and we had already planned last May / June around having a caravan. I suppose we could have changed things, but there was a wedding to work round and folk we had planned to meet, so we decided to leave it as it was and also take (not towing) a car. In total we only used 5 sites in 6 weeks. It certainly wasn't how we had envisaged using the MH and although we enjoyed our time away, it certainly wasn't something we wanted to repeat.

    In contrast we took it to France in September / October and stopped on 18 sites (a mixture of Aires and proper sites) in 6 weeks. Replenishing food and often calling in places on moving day. We really enjoyed using it in this manner and for us it set a pattern of how we want to continue. 

    No good Aire network here of course but we joined the C&CC  to increase the number of sites we have access to, plus most commercials will let you book as long as you stop 3 days. This has allowed for the selection of sites close to places we want to visit, or where there is reasonable public transport. This May / June 6 week tour of Scotland utilises 16 sites. It is certainly a pattern we see continuing. Which reminds me, I still have two I have to book, they wouldn't take them last year.

  • young thomas
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    edited January 2020 #15

    the change to a MH os sometimes a tricky one for those who used to caravan, probably having plenty of space and access to a car...

    but caravanning can become 'difficult' for some and a self contqined unit might appeal.

    getting the size right is key as a single vehicle has to carry all the people and their kit yet provide the same sleeping capacity as the caravan.

    ..and then there is 'getting about'....which can be tackled in several ways...

    small MH/PVC which can be taken out just like a car, but getting used to a different level of space might be an issue.

    larger MHs that tow cars are popular but some dont see this as being different to a car/caravan...

    choosing sites close to towns or with access to good public transport will help but a key advantage of a MH over a caravan is its self contained nature and its ability to pull in where you want...

    not so easy in the uk with its friendly parking rules, but supermarket cqr parks will generally allow you to visit a town 'en route' to the next stop.

    also, depending on age/fitness, electric bikes are a great way of poppin into town or heading out into the country for the day.

    combining town sites and country CLs could give you a varying tour, helping you get the most out of your new MH.

    ps, i dont know if you ever venture abroad, but france (and many other countries) are so much more MH friendly than the UK and the lure of cheaper living, less crowded roads and better weather will convince you that you've done the right thing.

    good luck.

  • JVB66
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    edited January 2020 #16

    We have as we got older reverted from having motor caravans (two over an11year period)both panel van and coachbuilt but have found the much more (in this country) convenience of not having to "think" if we can go,to not so convenient stopping places, as we now have an almost go anywhere at the drop of a hat support vehicle alongside,friends of ours who at the moment( but waivering) have a motor caravan will always mention if they need to bring their car when we are away together

  • young thomas
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    yes thats true up to a point, but once youve 'explored' the area in your 'support vehicle' and its time to move on the the next area, you get to the 'packing up the caravan and car' (taking down awnings etc) which is usually one of the main reasons folk move to a MH.

    if this was a regular thing (like Alan's unwavering 5 day stops) i can see how this might be a pain.

    for 'destination stops' of several weeks, having a car is, for some, a distinct advantage, but if touring at a fairly brisk pace (say, 2/3-5 days) all that setting up and taking down time eats into those few days....

    obviously its hourses for courses, but we 'put up with' any perceived hardships of using a MH for the summer in the UK as its vastly outweighed by the ease of touring/parking we get for our two long continental breaks each year. 

  • SteveL
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    edited January 2020 #18

    What I certainly don't miss since getting a MH, is the lack of faff. Power, movering it out of its space at storage, as there wasn't room to tow. Hitching up in the rain. Finding places to stop on route when services are busy. Setting up at the other end, again possibly in the rain. Moving stuff that was too heavy to carry into the van from the car.

    In contrast when we went to Abbey Wood before Christmas. Drove to storage, moved a few bags across from car to van, including food. Moved van and put car in its place. Pleasant drive to London the more so because I can legally do 70 and don't have to play with the HGV's.

    At Abbey Wood checked in. While I filled with water OH wandered off with our MH using this pitch sign and choose a pitch. Drove onto pitch, no levelling necessary, seats swivelled, kettle on and time for lunch. Oh I did plug in while she was preparing it. Although could have left it all on gas until after.

    At the end of our 3 nights, drove to MH waste grid and dumped. Didn't even need to get out of the vehicle. Although I did to chat with a couple of chaps in the storage area alongside. And I thought our pound fees where high.surprised

  • Aspenshaw
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    edited January 2020 #19

    Size of the motorhome matters. It sets the parameters for what you can and cannot do but it does not stop you enjoying motorhomes. You just have to adjust. 6.5m is my maximum length because nothing bigger will fit on our drive. Our caravans had to go in storage.

    You must have had reasons for changing to a motorhome although it's not unusual to have second thoughts. Think about why you bought a motorhome and what sort of motorhoming did you want?

    We swapped from caravanning to motorhome because the dog died and our two children were heartbroken. We bought the motorhome to take the boys on Continental holidays for the next 10 years, something a motorhome did well..

    I search the CMC sites with a filter for public transport nearby. Then use Google maps or similar to check how easy it will be to visit places we want. Smart phones are particularly useful for this when on site. Sometimes I look up the public transport from the place I'm visiting and then look up sites on the radiating bus/railway routes.

    If there is no suitable public transport, we use the van and go where it can go. If we cannot access the place we want to go, we go somewhere else.

    I plan a route for up to three weeks with overnight to three night stops unless there is something specific in the area which requires a longer stay. In the longer stays, we will frequently use the van for days out.

    BritStops is popular with motorhomers looking for overnight stay touring.

     

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited January 2020 #20

    We’re not all year campers but do use our van during the winter month for days out. Not only does this keep the oily bits moving but enables us to go places and stop for cliff top picnics, for example, which is something we would never have done with a caravan.

  • EasyT
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    edited January 2020 #21

    if this was a regular thing (like Alan's unwavering 5 day stops) i can see how this might be a pain.

    I do occasionally have 6 nights if meeting up with friends wink and a 15 nighter in December. 

    As we don't use an awning it takes no more than 20 mins (much less if its raining smile) to dump waste, put aquaroll and wastemaster into caravan, fit mirrors, coil cable,  hitch up and go. Probably 20 mins on arrival depending on water pressure to fill aquaroll. We usually arrive on site 5 or 10 mins past 12. By the time we have booked in, found a pitch, set up, got water put out the things stored and sat down with tables and chairs out, a brew and a freshly made sandwich. It is usually between 12.40 and 12.45'

    (Takes nearly as long to pack stuff away before travelling, wipe down hob and kitchen tops, tables etc, give the loo basin a clean as the outside work does. The only thing from the caravan that travels in the car is a few 2 pint milk bottles and a bottle of scotch. If we want to get off quicker we split the chores.)

     

  • brue
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    B&B. I think people who've done both will understand your mixed feelings and it can take awhile to adjust to a slightly different holiday style, there are pluses and minuses with both. 

    It's easy to find out about transport on line, in tourist offices and information rooms on site. It isn't just motorhomers that make use of bus passes either. One of the major pluses is taking a motorhome off site, you have everything with you! So much depends on the size of M/H you have chosen and how flexible it is for short and long journeys.

    There are things we definitely don't miss, particularly setting up in skin drenching weather, on the other hand we sometimes miss nipping out in a car but we've adapted and both experiences have been enjoyable. Give yourself a bit more time to adjust. smile

  • young thomas
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    edited January 2020 #23

    "Size of the motorhome matters. It sets the parameters for what you can and cannot do but it does not stop you enjoying motorhomes. You just have to adjust. 6.5m is my maximum length because nothing bigger will fit on our drive. Our caravans had to go in storage."

    certainly agree with this, we are lucky enough to have a long drive which can accommodate two cars and our MH.

    while some will cite the 'downside' of having a van close to home, the advantages outweigh this many times over.

    being able to pop into the van piecemeal and add (or remove stuff.. clothes, water, bikes etc) is a boon...eg i couldnt take the bikes to a storage area (car too small) and would have to bring the van back here, waste of time if the route is in the opposite direction...

    our pals dont have a drive, just a shared pull in that serves a row of houses, with little chance of bringing the van the mile or so back from their local compound.....so even this short distance sometimes means multiple trips to load/unload.

    also, depending on the storage facilities and rules, it may not have ehu, or allow washing etc.....things you take for granted with the van at home.

    like Alan, im sure some have packing/unpacking a caravan down to a fine art but ive seen others take best part of a day to get their large awning, mats, windbreaks, dog compounds and the like set up.

    similarly, some take their awning down 'the day before' (as it takes so long) and perhaps put it up the day after arrival for a similar reason.

    not much point in having an awning thats only used for three days of a five day stay...especially if repeated at the next site.

     

     

  • EasyT
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    edited January 2020 #24

    like Alan, im sure some have packing/unpacking a caravan down to a fine art but ive seen others take best part of a day to get their large awning, mats, windbreaks, dog compounds and the like set up.

    Yep, when we pulled up on site mid December we arrived just after 12. Couple that took a pitch opposite me were already pitched. It was loosing light and B cold by the time that they had everything sorted but they did have Christmas lights to put up on the caravan. We pitched and was in the nearby Morrisons before 12.40 waiting for our lunch. We wanted to shop and thought that we would do our normal arrival sequence for our December stay of set up caravan, sort out inside, go do some shopping and grab a bite whilst the caravan heats up

  • MalcMc
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    Hi B&B, we were new to MH world last year, like so many replies, flexibility is key notched up 12 different sites, not including night stops on route, or lunch in the New Forest twice on way home, not looked back, as you have already said stick with it and enjoy ease of use.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited January 2020 #26

    @ BB

    similarly, some take their awning down 'the day before' (as it takes so long) and perhaps put it up the day after arrival for a similar reason.

    Our awning will often come down the day before, not because it takes so long, but because it's dry. The next morning it often be wet due to morning dew or at least the grass it'll be folded up on will be. wink

  • eurortraveller
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    We thought it out when we reached the age of 70 and even though we were spending most of our travelling time overseas realised that a Motorhome simply  would not work for us.

    We knew we were not going to walk or cycle far in the future, and the places we enjoyed going to had next to no public transport at all. We had a list of 20 favourite campsite across Europe where we enjoyed staying - owners whom we knew, some who did meals for us, sites with swimming pools and good facilities, sites in the countryside with trees, flowers, river banks  and pleasant surroundings for us to sit out in the sun. We looked at Motorhome Aires as we travelled across Europe and said these would be the alternatives - but they simply didn't appeal. 

    We didn't buy the Motorhome but downsized the big caravan and bought an Eriba instead -we could push it around like a pram, so dumped the awning and the awning furniture, and got arrivals and departures at sites down to ten minutes each. 

    No regrets. 

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  • young thomas
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    agreed, age/fitness/confidence etc all contribute to the decision process.

    however, i dont think aires are a 'must do' alternative to sites just because one owns a MH. IMHO they are a choice thats available to those who have MH and can be used (or not) to supplement touring and to find somewhere safe to park overnight at short notice.

    i guess we all have our favourite sites and we also like to swim, eat out, stroll the hills and mountains but also enjoy the wonderful countryside on our bikes.

    we could just as easily visit those sites with a caravan as we do with a MH.

    The difference for us is that during the travelling between sites we are never scratching around for winter stop over....so many posts here are for caravanners having to plan around a limited supply of open sites.

    yes, the well trodden routes are known and plenty of great advice to be had here, but if i want to pull over a bit earlier or travel on a bit further there is still plenty of choice. for my first stop in France tomorrow i have 3 aires in mind for roughly where we want to be and will choose one depending on how we feel.

    if we want to visit a town/city there will virtually always be handy parking, much of it reserved for MHs.

    some MHers use aires almost exclusively, returning to a site to perhaps do a bit of washing or clean the van etc...

    the choice is there, mix and match as you like, but IMHO one doesn't preclude the other.

    either way, just happy to be put there doing it, whichever mode we choose.

  • JVB66
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    edited January 2020 #30

    Same with us I do all the outside bits and OH does the inside, and as we spend so many nights a year on "tour" we have in down to a fine art and can be set normally in half hour ,as with moving on,our car is the extra load that we had with a motor caravan,on longer trips we tend now to  do a max 130miles per day with overnight stays 

  • MichaelT
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    edited January 2020 #31

    We changed from a caravan to a MH 3.5 years ago and made a conscious decision to not tour like we did with the caravan  but utilise the advantages of a MH.  We rarely stay on site for more than 1 (maybe 2) nights in fact over NY we were on a site for 4 nights and both of us said after 3 days we had itchy feet.

    We now do a circular tour where as before like most would centre ourselves somewhere then go out daily to the point of interest/attraction and back to the van, often covering the same roads back and forth rather like a wagon wheel.  We now do a circular tour stopping of at places of interest at the end of each spoke staying overnight or visiting places on route.  We use our bikes to get out and about or walk, stop at supermarkets on the way etc.

    The best thing is getting abroad and using the Aire/Stelplatz network where you only need to move a few km each day to see something new and be situated right in the village, at the Chateau or other attraction.  LAst  Autumn in Germany we did the Mosel in Germany and moved perhaps 10-20km each day visiting all the attraction en route or getting out on the bikes each day.  Even in the UK there are lots of places to stay that are not camp sites which you can use, look at search for sites for ideas.

    By staying at a site all the time like a caravanner you are not using the MH as it was designed, get a SP, refillable gas and the world is your lobster.