A New Decade Beckons

mickysf
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edited December 2019 in General Chat #1

So we are about to enter the 20's. Over the last few years we have witnessed many influences, effects and pressure, both directly and indirectly on our pastime and club. So what will this decade bring and what changes do folk think we will witness by the end of 2029?

On and a happy New Year and new Decade to all.

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  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited December 2019 #2

    I reckon it’ll be known as the roaring 20’s by the time it’s over. We’ll look back at a time of division to a time of proud independence👍🏻

  • scoutman
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    edited December 2019 #3

    With the move to smaller, lightweight alternative fueled tow cars, touring caravans will also need to be much smaller and lighter. Gone will be the large twin wheeler with fixed beds and bathrooms larger than those at home. Pitches will come with individual toilet/washrooms and many will have permanently pitched awings. All of this will come at a cost, pitch + 2 around £100-£150 per night. Time to pack up or buy a tent!!

  • Oneputt
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    edited December 2019 #4

    Perhaps one or other of the clubs will buy the other out so we end up with a super club.  Fuel prices will probably sky rocket.  

     

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited December 2019 #5

    Outfits will get smaller. But more ingenious to cope. Sites will become mere park ups as land is required for more housing. All hardstandings.

    As this generation continues to shuffle off this mortal coil, the next generation will have little in the way of work pensions and work longer, so they will be more than my age now before they can afford to buy an outfit, will have less opportunity to use it, unless it’s a pooled family affair so that GK’s get holiday childcare.

    Ergo......the two main Clubs will merge to keep going, and make the most of dwindling Site and CL/CS resources. Both Club’s will lose all their Scottish Sites, but a new Club will emerge that will be free to all resident Scots, and charge the English a lot more to visit. The Clinging On Camping Utopia Project (COCUP) will have it’s HQ further North ‘cos it’s a cheaper lifestyle! 😁🤣

  • brue
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    edited December 2019 #6

    Global warming will see foreign vans flocking to the uk for cooler weather, "over there" will be too hot and Carter bar will become an international border for those escaping the sun. wink

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited December 2019 #7

    Ah.......Carter Bar😁

    Talking of ingenious outfit modifications, possibly dual usage? Not only will you be able to connect to a bollard along the Ouse and the Severn, but overnight berths will be an option for those outfits that can ride out the floods? Mind you, it’s going to require some better build in terms of damp proofing to work fully. So RIP Elddiss, Swift, Lunar et al....🤣

  • Oneputt
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    edited December 2019 #8

    So it maybe goodbye caravan and welcome to cruising the cut for me

  • huskydog
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    edited December 2019 #9

    Perhaps by the end of 2029 we might be able to post a photo on CT without all the resizing, and the famous white peg might be replaced with a virtual peg (park where you like) surprised

  • peedee
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    edited December 2019 #10

    Cost of using Club sites will continue to rise.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50947097

    Perhaps at last we will see the end of BST.

    peedee

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited December 2019 #11

    It’ll be English Summer time. English like to cling on to their past idiosyncrasies. 

    We are hoping to emigrate.........if Scotland will have us!😁

    York has got its New Year Resolution in early! https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/dec/31/york-to-ban-private-cars-from-city-centre-within-three-years

    As a frequent visitor, not a bad idea. It has good transport links, and the City centre is quite tiny really compared with other places. We never take our car into City Centre now. 

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited December 2019 #12

    I was trying to find a direct comparison in terms of cost for the last ten years. It so happens that in 2009 we went to the CMC site in Cambridge and also in 2019 at the same time. During that time the cost has increased by 81% if my trusty Casio is to be believed. So working on the basis that during that time general inflation has been historically low, except perhaps for the NMW. So on that basis in ten years time a site costing £25 a night now will cost £45 and a site costing  £35 a night now will cost £63 a night by the end of the 2029!!! During the same period with the ever increasing pressure to have electric vehicles the price of petrol and diesel will no doubt increase at a faster rate than inflation so perhaps by the end of the period the price of fuel could be hitting £2 a litre if not more! I do think this will have a profound effect on our hobby. The demographics of society in the last ten years has changed substantially with younger couples getting on the housing ladder latter in life which might slow the demand for LV's. I suspect the Club will react by providing more on site ready accommodation and greater provision for tent campers. Even if more electric vehicles become capable of towing caravans I suspect the cost of those vehicles will be a dampener on uptake unless some inspired future Government decides to subsidise the purchase of such vehicles. Apparently in Norway they don't charge VAT on electric cars.

    David

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited December 2019 #13

    That’s a very interesting comparison DK. I would venture to add that the Club’s Aims and Objectives have probably altered over the last ten years, which has possibly also impacted upon prices and availability.

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  • JVB66
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    edited December 2019 #15

    2030 I may still be around,  but am sure that driving will be in,the past, as long as that bus passes are still being issued but then then our train pass wil l also hopefully still be issued,so even more chauffeured holidayssurprised,

    Although can keep up to date with the club  with our free magazine if it is still available by postsurprised

    Ps I note from the latest ccc mag that they are increasing their holiday homes for sale and to let as they are also increasing pods etc on sites ,surprised

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2019 #16

    Just off thread I was speaking to a scientist from Cambridge Uni last week when walking Rosa and he was saying that each  EV will take over thirty years of ownership before the owner can say that they are helping the planet ,as the cost to the planet when they are built far exceeds the costs of diesels 23yrs and petrol 27yearssurprised 

  • cyberyacht
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    edited December 2019 #17

    Will 2020 be a year of vision?

    Anyway, Happy New Year to all my readers. wink

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited December 2019 #18

    I wonder if the Club archive have any records to indicate the change in costs from a horse towing a caravan to when cars became capable of doing the job? I suppose it's a similar change from fossil fueled vehicles to electric ones. Your scientist might be right, I am in no position to argue but I suspect that is the immediate effect of running such a vehicle on our planet that seems to matter rather than the longer term consequences! 

    David

  • chasncath
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    edited December 2019 #19

    Just to end the year on a pedantic note, the next decade doesn't start until 1st Jan 2021innocent 1 to 10 = 10 years = decade!

    Happy New yearsmile

  • mickysf
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    edited December 2019 #20

    By that reckoning then we all celebrated the new century and millennium a year too early, is that right? 

  • chasncath
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    edited December 2019 #21

    Indeed we did! But they'd built the Dome and booked HM for the party before some smart**** pointed out the mistake, so it had to go ahead!!

  • mickysf
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    edited December 2019 #22

    Oh, the whole world got it wrong then! Mind you what is the Earth's birthday, if thats the starting point, its certainly older than the 2019 years some people believe and nothing to do with just one religion! 

  • Graydjames
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    Yes, indeed the whole world did get it wrong and this was very thoroughly debated at the time I remember.

    It was not a mistake, however. Of course it was, and is, well known when a new century or decade starts, but it just doesn't feel right to use the correct timing. To start the millennium at the start of the year 2000 feels right - even if it isn't. As it does to start the new decade now and not in a year's time.

  • robsail
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    edited January 2020 #24

    So does that mean independence for Yorkshire?

    Rocky2buckets from Yorkshire!

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited January 2020 #25

    We’ve never been subservient to any, ergo we are independent👍🏻😊

  • ABM
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    edited January 2020 #26

    Micky,  I'm of the small select group that starts counting from ONE and not from Zero !! 

    But the dates we are using come from the  supposed " Birth date of Christ ".  The very basic Church in existence then  did not really decide until about 400 AD (  I think  ) as we know it when the new calendar should begin and cease to use the Jewish or Roman one . But the important thing was that they were using Roman numerals and there was not a zero in that system. So they settled for a date and we have followed it ever since apart from swapping from Julian  to Gregorian.

     Complicated & confusing to most  so being the simple minded chap that he is Brian celebrates BOTH decades, centuries & millennia in order to make sure he's got it right or is at least there or thereabouts wink

  • ABM
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    edited January 2020 #27

    DANELAW  Rocky mate  !!

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited January 2020 #28

    Danelaw preceded Yorkshire, so Yorkshire can’t have been subservient  to those darned troublemaking Viking sorts🤷🏻‍♂️

  • brue
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    edited January 2020 #29

    How is it that when someone asks about the future we end up with the Vikings...? wink

  • ABM
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    edited January 2020 #30

    They're out there still, Brue, looking for another load of lost souls like them there north-eastern homeless rhubarb growers wink

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited January 2020 #31

    ABM is stuck in the past Brue🤷🏻‍♂️😂