Alde heating drain down and replacement fluid cost

charlie25
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edited November 2019 in Caravans #1

I have had a few quotes for draining  down my Alde heating system and replacing with new fluid. The cost seems to be about the £200 mark and takes about two hours. Is this expensive or has other caravaners had cheaper quotes?

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  • Unknown
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  • Tigi
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    edited November 2019 #4

    At least manufacturers have moved away from this two year rip off and new caravans are now filled with the 5 year (pink) fluid.

  • kentman
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    edited November 2019 #5

    £200 seems cheap. Just paid nearly £300 including vat. At least the new fluid will last 5 years rather than the 3 year lifespan of the ex factory fluid 

  • dmiller555
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    edited November 2019 #6

    I've been quoted £180 provided it is done at the same time as the annual service, which is also the same price. 

     

  • MikeyA
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    edited November 2019 #7

    Our forthcoming service with a mobile engineer ( from the Approved Workshop scheme) has quoted us £155 for the single axle service and £135 for the replacement of the Alde fluid.

  • ocsid
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    edited November 2019 #8

    " no obvious harm resulted"

    The "harm" would be insidious corrosion, typically of the outer surface of the burner can, right up to the moment it will become very obvious and extremely costly.

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  • MikeyA
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    edited November 2019 #10

    I presume he has all the equipment but he is definitively using the approved solution -  G13 .

  • ocsid
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    edited November 2019 #11

    IMO, if the fluid colour is "magenta" then you can rest pretty confident in it either being filled with a VW approved G13 or G12++ specification fluid, both in our application are totally suitable, and 5 year products.

    The genuine G13 brings better environmental credentials, but here functionally and importantly their corrosion inhibiting, both are good choices.

    All said, I being previously deeply involved in this field would like to know, and approve the actual brand used, for absolute total confidence.

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  • MikeyA
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    edited November 2019 #13

    As the caravan will be at home during the service I will be able to establish the product before he starts - unlike when the caravan is away at the dealers.

     

  • ocsid
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    edited November 2019 #14

    If I was not doing it myself, I would be furnishing the operative with what was to go in there.

  • ocsid
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    edited November 2019 #15

    "With my retired engineers "hat on" having read DD's description of the complexity and time needed to carry out a regular maintenance on the system wonder if the system design is fit for purpose."

    With mine on, I can assure you the wet system is very "fit for purpose", but that is no asset if you don't need it for that "purpose" but instead need a ventilation system. 

    The DD experience does seem a bit OTT but if they did not know what product was used previously, a wise one. Whilst a "regular maintenance" it need only be a 5 yearly one. Then we read some, even engineers, get away with not doing so for another two and a half times the manual's recommended change out interval.wink

  • bandgirl
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    edited November 2019 #16

    I paid £225 to have the glycol mixture changed by our local dealer in our caravan last month.  When we picked the caravan up, they gave me a bottle of the fluid to top up, if necessary.  Not sure, but I’m thinking that because we only have a 2 berth caravan, maybe there’s a standard size bottle of fluid to suit larger caravans and they just gave me the remainder?

     

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  • mylo
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    edited November 2019 #20

    Hi does any one no if ford super plus antifreeze is ok to use as said on bottles will last for 10 years

  • MikeyA
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    edited November 2019 #21

    I am not hiring some cowboy he is part of the Approved Workshop scheme and he comes highly recommended.

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  • Tinwheeler
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    I doubt it's suitable but I know for sure it will invalidate any warranty you might have.

  • KjellNN
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    edited November 2019 #24

    Our large van's Alde  system has about 13 litres of fluid in it, so changing it it our case requires about 6-7 litres of concentrated Glycol of the correct type, a smaller van would use less.  It all depends on the size and the layout, there really is no standard amount.

    I have changed the fluid in our system twice, we changed to the 5 year stuff at the first change, so we have a couple of spare bottles of concentrate and always carry one with us in case we need to top up.

    Ease of changing will depend on the layout of the pipe work, ours does not tend to harbour air anywhere so the change was easy but time consuming with all the flushing out of the old fluid.

  • bandgirl
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    edited November 2019 #25

    Thanks.  I understand it can be done as a DIY job, but my OH wouldn’t do it (suffers from impatience & wants to get anything done as fast as possible), plus we store our van in a compound on a local site as not enough room at home.  In the long run, easier to take it to the dealer workshop and get a proper job done.

  • Tirril
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    edited December 2019 #26

    [Deleted User User] that seems a very painstaking procedure and I wonder were you changing fluid specifications eg from 2 years (blue) to 5 years (pink) fluid which required such a clean out. I can see the need to drain completely when a fluid reaches the end of its life cycle but if replacing with the same fluid specification you would think just a simple flush followed by a complete matching fluid refill and then the usual steps to dispel air locks would suffice.