Caravan Club Non Insurance Policy

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  • davetommo
    davetommo Forum Participant Posts: 1,430
    edited November 2019 #542

    On the actual policy documents that you get if you accept Caravan Cover it states that whenever a caravan is left unhitched it must be immobilised or protected from theft by use of a hitchlock, wheel clamp, heavy duty chain or alarm system. There is no mention of "one of the following".

     

    If it needs all then it should be worded by use of Hitchcock, wheel clamp heavy duty chain and alarm system not or alarm system. Also you get a discount if you have an alarm system

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  • Freddy55
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    edited November 2019 #544

    I always apply the (two) devices I’ve stipulated. Maybe that’s where the confusion is coming from?

  • Oneputt
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    edited November 2019 #545

    It is a requirement of cover that whenever the caravan is left unhitched from a towing vehicle it is immobilised or protected against theft or unlawful removal by the use of one of the following: a hitchlock, wheel clamp, heavy duty chain or immobiliser or an alarm system

    The above is the t&c’s for the club cover.  When I took out the policy on my new van, I ticked the boxes of all the security devices I use.  

    My reading of the policy is that when unhitched I only need to use one of the devices I nominated 

  • Cornersteady
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    edited November 2019 #546

    And the same for me in all respects.

    I think the more you tick, the less the premium.

  • Rufs
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    edited November 2019 #547

    To be fair, I haven’t studied my cover document.

    me neither, i go on the assumption that if i buy cover from a reputable company and tick all the main boxes all will be fine, to be honest have never had more than a couple of claims for insurance compensation in my whole life and never had a problem

  • JVB66
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    edited November 2019 #548

    The more security devices you have fitted when on a site the longer it will take to get your van to "safety" when you see Noah getting the animals on boardsurprised

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  • Surfer
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    edited November 2019 #550

    Which is what we thought as that is what it says in the policy booklet, but the documents that come with the policy state different and indicate that all the security devices should be used or an alarm.

    This is copied direct from the documentation that came with the cover;

    Are there any restrictions on cover?
    ! Commercial use of the caravan is not permitted
    ! Whenever a caravan is left unhitched it must be immobilised or protected from theft by use of a hitchlock, wheel clamp, heavy duty chain or alarm system.
    ! Where a part is obsolete and unobtainable, the most we may pay is the last known list price and appropriate fitting charge.

    As said they need to go back and rewrite their documentation.

  • EasyT
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    edited November 2019 #551

    What would a court of law make of that

    Who wants to take CMC to court? I thought that CMC cover allowed 3 hours left unattended without security? Or is that just on site? Somebody posted that it was 8 hours - I dunno. Surely it says on the cover documents.

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  • Rufs
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    edited November 2019 #554

    its a good point, but if not, you can always cancel once you have received and read your cover document, that is if you read it, but would suggest if you never read the old one your are not likely to read the new one undecided wouldnt particularly chance leaving my caravan in a service area for e.g. for 8 hours without putting a lock on it, so the non 8 hour change is probably a change for the better 

  • Cornersteady
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    edited November 2019 #555

    +1

    I though the old 8 hours was far too lax anyway. How can anyone think it's a good idea to leave a caravan unprotected for 8 hours is beyond me. 

  • Cornersteady
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    edited November 2019 #556

    I think they have, you must have an old copy?

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  • EasyT
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    edited November 2019 #558

    If you had a 10 year van and new for old some might be tempted to do that I suspect undecided

  • Rufs
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    edited November 2019 #559

    but who would steal a Hobby?, travellers may think somebody had discarded it and tow it away.surprised

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  • Oneputt
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    edited November 2019 #564

    If the club insurance is so naff AD why didn’t you can it straight away and take your new insurance out at the first opportunity?

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  • Oneputt
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    edited November 2019 #566

    AD that’s fine although it was a serious question

  • Rufs
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    edited November 2019 #567

    sure you did get good svc at £25k+ he wont have sold many of thosewink

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  • davetommo
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    edited November 2019 #569

    Read it proper and look how it is puncuated. And nowhere does it state that you have to use them all. As I stated I phoned up and was told that you only need to use one unless you have had the discounts for using the other security devices.

  • EasyT
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    edited November 2019 #570

    I can tell you why I didn't if it is of any interest?

    I had been using insurance via the club for very many years. I renewed on 3rd December 2018. I was aware that the club was now offering cover rather than normal insurance. When I got my renewal quote I was aware of very little change in the general cover offered. I did not think further because I had other concerns at the time with family, health concerns, and having a lot of other things that were pressing. After Christmas I did not think further as there was other things and it was not something that I thought of further. For some reason during October this year I reviewed the cover and any considerations. I decided then that it was not for me. The caravan would not be used again until after cover had run out - we are away mid December; and so preffered to go elsewhere then. 

  • EasyT
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    edited November 2019 #571

    He may not have, who knows, but I see many caravans on sites whose new values are £25k plus.