Bristol Clean Air Zone
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Yes, and then try and have a sensible discussion with your council about the implications of running a cable across the street to charge your parked car!
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I agree its a great site, and always full, so it will be a great loss. BUT, as a tourist i hate going where i am not welcome, And banning one of the main forms of transport into the City, is not exactly welcoming. SO, thats Bristol added to the list of places I will steer clear of in the future.
Shame.
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Bristol has train services and park and rides.
Spoke to BIL who lives amongst the Bristol fumes and he is pleased with the plan. It gives him time to change his old diesel and apparently there will be a scrappage scheme. He's intending to go for a hybrid next.
No doubt this type of scheme will be coming to a polluted city near the rest of us soon but I wonder how things will work out at Baltic Wharf which is the main concern for CAMC users.
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If and when the site itself closes, I don't think I will be taking our MH anywhere near the centre of Bristol, low emission zone or no low emission zone. Parking it wouldn't be particularly easy. Hopefully the park and rides will be MH friendly.
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You should come to central Scotland again TTDA, lots to see in Edinburgh, and personally I would not have called it small, but of course we are not used to big places like London, Birmingham and Manchester.
While the city centre is reasonably compact, the suburbs do sprawl, and Leith is nice now.
Glasgow, not far from us, has lots to see in and around, and although bigger than Edinburgh, also has a compact city centre.
We used to live in Gourock, 30 odd years back, only the one vehicle ferry there now, but lovely views of the Clyde. Fantastic view from our bathroom window!
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Glasgow is going to have an exclusion zone for the most polluting vehicles by 2021, I think. Our Euro 6 diesel will be allowed, but petrol vehicles registered before something like 2005, need to check that, will not be allowed. DD will need a new car if she needs to go in the city centre as hers is from 2002.
The exclusion zone is fairly small, but her office is just within the zone.
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Why do retired couples need two cars?
David
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David
Many and varied reasons, depending on circumstances and life style.
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While I did not understand why DK had quoted my post, I must admit we do have 2 cars now!
When I retired, in 2007, we bought a new towcar, and the previous tow car was sold in 2008. We only had one car until 2013, when OH decided she wanted a small car for using around town and for shopping, so she bought a 2 seater Smart, which we still have.
It Is very much a shared car, shared with DD (and now SIL is also on the insurance) as hers is old, but now she has Callum, she cannot use it with him. Thinking that in a couple of years we may get an electric 4 seater Smart, funds permitting.
We quite often have different things to do, places to go, so did find having only one car quite limiting after always having 2 cars.
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Because they might live in an area of poor public transport and don’t always do the same things at the same time? It’s their/our choice.
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We would find having to leave the Bristol site either before 7am or after 3pm very limiting, so would not use the site. Fortunately, we have already spent a week there several years back, and seen what we wanted to see.
We used public transport to visit the city, but used our car to visit places further afield.
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so you can have one on the pitch and one in the free car park of course
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Very much so.
It must be easy if you are living in a "city" with excellent public transport, cycleways and the taxis only involving short drives, so modest costs, to get to vital services like doctors , hospitals and pharmacies.
Just envisage how very different are the mobility needs of those couples living far away from these things.
I expect being retired I could take my wife, or she take me, everywhere each other needs or might desire to go and then find somewhere to "kill" the time before a pick up is needed; but actually in retirement one starts to realise how precious time is becoming.
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I wonder what the environmental impact of replacing a whole swathe of vehicles before their time will be.
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I don't suppose we do anymore. Although we did when we bought the current Yaris 5 years ago. OH does not really like driving the X Trail but she does occasionally. However, we own it and it does not cost that much a year to run, £30 road tax, insurance and a service / MOT, plus a little petrol and it is very convenient having two occasionally. Although we have bus services, they don't actually go anywhere near the supermarkets without multiple changes, and we seldom use our bus passes at home. As it is out of warranty this year it will very much depend on its reliability how long we keep it. If it's like the last Yaris it will be for many years.
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Why not pinch the European idea of selling different coloured 'crit air' stickers for city center access ? At least that would be a 'joined up' system that the whole country would know about.Rather than individual Mayors banning all and sundry vehicles with no scientific evidence.
A confused national picture helps no one.
We run a 10 year old petrol Yaris, £30 a year road tax, no plan to change it.
And a 6 year old euro 5 Fiat based 6 metre motorhome. no plans to change that either.
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I have a 12 year old diesel volvo estate. a 9 year old 6.5 ton Euro 5 diesel powered moho and a 4 year old petrol driven run around city car, I have no plans to change any of these until I Iose my C1+E licence and only then will I rethink our requirements.
What with Baltic Wharf under the threat of closure, it reads as though if you want to use the Bristol site, best do it sooner rather than later.
peedee
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The government set pollution levels and due to some areas not achieving these councils are having to take more drastic actions. Maybe if they had acted earlier gradual changes could have been introduced and vehicle owners might have had more time to plan and adapt?
So as DK said "we are where we are."
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Ray
I do tend to agree with you on the wider picture as there seems to be a complete lack of joined up writing from the Government on how individual Councils should approach the issue of inner city pollution. The German Umwelt scheme might work but what happens when the requirement is that only Green Badges are allowed into city centres? For many that would be the equivalent to a ban. Just down the road from Bristol is Bath and, if it's still going ahead, they plan to use road pricing to control pollution. So how do two cities less than twenty miles apart come up with totally different solutions? Many of these schemes are a reaction to a problem rather than being a preventative measure. I can see lots of confusion in coming years with so many different systems.
David
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A Europe-wide environmental sticker system would be good. I already have two cluttering up my windscreen. Perhaps that is the "cunning plan" - fill up the windscreens with them so we can't see out to drive our vehicles.
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why worry about LEZs the latest electric cars are not capable of towing the type of caravan that is on sale at present most hybrid cars have a towing limit of 750-850KG so it will most probably be electric powered motorhomes or camper vans in the future
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With electric tow cars capable of towing hardly ANY of todays caravans,
Pure electric motorhomes are a long way off, and will be 'eye wateringly expensive'. Motorhomes last for many many years and will have to be 'forced' from the roads...But we wont go quietly.
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