Air or pole awnings for seasonal pitch

Simon A Robertson
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I am soon to take delivery of my first caravan and need some advice regarding which awning to use on a seasonal pitch, air or pole. I would welcome advice and opinions.

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  • JVB66
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    edited November 2019 #2

    It depends on what you are allowed to do,are you able to keep your awning erected when not staying in the c/van (not on club sites)

    a pole awning is not so heavy to pull into awning rail , 

    an air awning is easier to inflate but both type  still require to be pegged down ,and it is not unknown for the tubes in air awnings to go off with a bang in hot weather

  • richardandros
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    edited November 2019 #3

    Although I much prefer an air awning, most of the awnings left erected whilst the van is unoccupied on seasonal pitches, that I have seen, have been large Isabella awnings.  Personally, I wouldn't leave an awning erected if I wasn't at the van.  As JVB says, there is a small danger of air awnings exploding in very hot weather - but there is also a possibility of more damage to the caravan with a pole awning if the wind was to suddenly get up.

  • ocsid
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    edited November 2019 #4

    Does any manufacturer market an air awning for "seasonal" use?

  • G Cherokee
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    edited November 2019 #5

    Dorema Magnum All season.

    belting piece of kit

  • DSB
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    edited November 2019 #6

    I've never had a seasonal pitch, so you may wish to stop reading now!  laughing

    Personally, I don't think I would leave up an awning at all - I have heard some stories of 'disasters', and as I am the sort of person who often looks at 'worst case scenario', that would be my choice.  For those who do decide to leave up an awning unattended, there are several ways of looking at it.  I reckon an awning with standard steel poles would generally be the most stable and would stand up to much bad weather.  However, should the worst happen, I reckon steel poles would ultimately do more damage to the caravan.  However, some of the air awnings are very good, but are quite heavy, from what I understand, so it is quite possible that in worst case scenario, it could still damage the caravan, but I guess the damage would be minimised.

    I know several people who live in caravans full time on sites, and even being present every day have experienced awning collapse/ damage and have not only had to replace their awnings, but have suffered damage not only to the caravan, but also to other items left in the awning.

    You would need to check if the site allows awnings to be left up unattended, and also check to make sure that your caravan was covered under insurance to be left on that particular site, security devices needed etc., and whether or not the insurance company are OK with an awning being left up unattended and the consequences on claims.  Also, look carefully at 'third party insurance' - i.e. should the caravan or erected awning cause any damage to other units whist unattended.

    Just a few thoughts.  I'm sure plenty would disagree with my thoughts, but for what it's worth, I don't think I would do it.

    However, please let us know how you get on.  Your experience might help others.

    David

  • redface
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    edited November 2019 #7

    That pretty well nails it David, but I would also add that in the event of  very strong winds the air tubes do flex and recover their position once the blast is past. However should an aluminium pole awning be hit by the same strength of gust then the result (if there is one) would be permanent. Best to use storm straps of course!

    The other downside to air awnings is that they do need to be re- pressurised from to time, rather like bike tyres.

  • Kalych
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    edited November 2019 #8

    Interesting and timely. We have just signed up for our first seasonal pitch (non-club) and are torn between air or pole. We moved to air awnings around 8 years ago with acceptable results. Leaning towards the Kampa All Season and if marketing material is to be believed the new updated air beams enable the awning to remain up with minimal intervention all season. We have elected to “proceed with caution”.

    I know in summertime I used to release some air from the beams to prevent any potential expansion and unwanted bangs.

    Thank you DSB for highlighting a few aspects I hadn’t considered.

  • Simon A Robertson
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    edited November 2019 #9

    Many thanks for your replies.

    The site allows awnings to stay up from 1st April until 31st October. I am stiĺl unsure which way to go so will do further research.

  • montesa
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    edited November 2019 #10

    Fwiw ....

    Option to leave Awning up on a Seasonal pitch would be a requirement for me.

    Pole type for leaving up longer term / absent with a decent peg down & storm strap. 

    Wouldn't trust to leave an Air Awning up when absent. Witnessed many many campers doing regular top up inflations.

    Quick weather check (for high winds) prior to departing for days would be sensible.

    M

  • allroader
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    edited November 2019 #11

    I’ve used the Kampa all season 400 awning for 2 seasons now on a seasonal pitch which runs from March till November. The awning is left up all the time with NO problems at all.

  • Mr H
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    edited November 2019 #12

    Kampa do a range of awnings for seasonal use. If you look at the Attwool Utube videos you will see just how stable they are when he leans  against the pole and it is totally rigid. As for the weight making it difficult to feed the awning through the channel you can remove side and/or front panels until after inflation. If you are worried about tubes being affected by sun heat you can lower the tube pressure down. Kampa show the effects of various temperature increases and all go nowhere near the maximum the tubes can withstand. We have two awnings both by Kampa, one since 2013 and are delighted with them.

  • cmaj1966
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    edited September 2021 #13

    Hi thanks for your answer regarding Kampa air awnings . You have put our mind at ease a little as we are doing our first seasonal next year with a Kampa 330 . We was unsure if we had to have a pole awning . I just wondered if you have had any issues with leaks in the Kampa s as we seem to have quite a few and only a year old 

    many thanks

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited October 2021 #14

    I think leaving an awning up might depend on where your seasonal pitch is located. I was camping up on Hexham Racecourse a few years ago, and one night had a big storm. We were fine in our low tent, pitched up behind a sheltered hedge, but the devastation to the caravans was a sight to behold. There wasn’t an awning left up, and lots of damage to vans. Staff had tried to contact seasonal pitch users, but many obviously didn’t make it. It might be ok for a couple of nights to leave one up, but beyond that, careful check on weather situation. 

     

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2021 #15

    I thought that on CMC sites that awnings had to generally be taken down at the end of a visit

    9.7 You can put up an awning/tent, but
    for safety purposes this should be
    taken down when you leave the Site
    at the end of each visit. This includes
    other temporary structures, e.g. TV
    aerials. Fire safety spacing must be
    maintained (see Club Site Rules for
    details). At Modbury only, awnings
    do not need to be taken down at the
    end of each visit, subject to specific
    conditions which will be notified
    separately.
    9.8 Groundsheets and side flaps of tents
    and awnings should be raised at
    regular intervals and/or as requested
    by the Site Staff to maintain the
    condition of the pitch.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited October 2021 #16

    No idea ET, Hexham isn’t Club. Lots of seasonal pitches up there when we visited at time of incident. I wandered over to see a member of staff at the time, he said that users were informed to take them down, but a lot ignored the advice, he’d done his best phone round, but the majority still left them up. It’s very exposed is Hexham.

    Not sure if St Agnes has seasonal pitches, there have been a few awnings over cliffs there in storms. We never left our awning up when we left our van in Cornwall, too risky. Besides, owners could mow grass easier with it down.