New tyres for Bailey unicorn Cadiz 3

sirtom01
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edited October 2019 in Caravans #1

I need to replace the Michelin tyres on my 2015 Bailey Unicorn Cadiz 3 as my recent service identified bulging on the sidewalls of both tyres.  Michelin seem to have discontinued production of the tyres which were originally fitted.

Does anyone have recommendations for replacements please and does anyone have experience of mobile tyre fitting on a storage site

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  • CJDM
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    edited October 2019 #2

    Hi ST.  I don’t have experience of Michelin tyres but recently changed the tyres on my Lunar. The originals were for trailer use only  and had a max psi of 60psi - which was also the recd pressure for the van. I replaced then with van tyres with a max psi of 80psi meaning that 60 is well within the limits and, I assume, the tyre is better as it is specced to be on Driven wheels. Just get the details from the tyre, there are lots of options out there other than Michelin. Regarding mobile fitters, sorry I don’t know.  I went to a depot which also deals with hgv’s so access was easy.

  • ggregu
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    edited October 2019 #3

    Kwik  Fit mobile came out and replaced the front tyres on my XTrail. Whilst he was there I asked about van tyres and he said they supply and fit these too. Don't need any yet but will use them when I do. Good price, good job including balancing and a good price. Very convenient too.

  • No5
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    edited October 2019 #4

    Changed our tyres on our 2015 Cadiz for the same reason earlier this year. Had Bridgestone Duravis R630 commercial van tyres fitted by Tyres on the Drive. They came to the house and replaced them, balanced as well. £150 the pair.

  • richardandros
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    edited October 2019 #5

    I wouldn’t want to fit Michelin tyres, anyway. I had to replace them on our 2015 Barcelona after just over 3 years because of serious cracks in the sidewalls.

    I’ve also used Kwik Fit mobile service in the past and was impressed with their service and price.

  • Rufs
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    edited October 2019 #6

    Kwik Fit for me, they fitted van tyres on my caravan on my drive together with Tyron bands. Recommend Tyron bands, only ever had one flat and did not know until somebody tapped on my window whilst in a traffic jam, drove to next lay-by and changed the wheel, punctured tyre in tip top condition despite having been driven on for some considerable distance. 

  • EmilysDad
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    edited October 2019 #7

     ..... and I'd avoid Kwik Fit at all costs

  • Rufs
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    edited October 2019 #8

    each to their own, they fitted mine 5 years ago and no problems, I guess whoever you chose, particularly for a home fit, your perception  of competance is dependant upon the individual not necessarily the company.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited October 2019 #9

    How do you know the tyre had been driven on for 'a considerable distance' if you didn't know you had a flat? 🙄

  • Rufs
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    edited October 2019 #10

    because it was over half a mile to nearest lay-by and not possible or safe to stop on side of road, have seen tyres shredded covering much shorter distances.undecided

  • EmilysDad
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    edited October 2019 #11

    True .... but Kwik Fit don't generally have the best of reputations.

  • Rufs
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    edited October 2019 #12

    True... but they were the only company in my area that had mobile fitters trained to fit Tyron bands, a lot of companies have never heard of them.

  • Shuckford
    Shuckford Forum Participant Posts: 63
    edited October 2019 #13

    Without hi-jacking this topic re: tyres. Can I ask the owners of Unicorn 3’s that have had tyres replaced did they get the TPMS sensors replaced at the same time and did the tyre fitters source these?

    Many thanks...   Ron.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited October 2019 #14

    The Trudgians were the first Tyron link I found .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vDuwL5DWfU

    I assume the props were originally supplied by Tyron .... conveniently the wheel rim was not a J profile rim. Tyrons help prevent the tyre bead from falling into the well of the wheel (you need the well to allow a tyre to be removed from the rim) .... funnily enough, the J profile rim is designed to hold the bead in place on the rim & stop it from getting anywhere near the well.

  • Rufs
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    edited October 2019 #15

    sorry too technical for me, so why are all wheels not J profile surely this would be a great safety enhancement to caravans, dont tell me they cost more money so we fork out £70 for tyron bands. Well glad i had mine fitted, probably paid for themselves as would probably had to buy a new tyre, and as i said i was in a traffic jam driving slowly, so this reduced the impact on the tyre but the only thing that alerted me to a possible problem was when i looked in the internal rear view mirror and thought the view had changed slightly, but chose to ignore it, glad the guy behind was on the ball. As an aside, 2 guys in the lay- by asked if i needed help to change the wheel, restored my faith in human nature. laughing

  • EmilysDad
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    edited October 2019 #16

    They ARE all j profile these days😉  ...

    Tyron bands are a product of days gone by before all rims had a j profile 

  • richardandros
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    edited October 2019 #17

    I did replace mine on the basis they were three and a half years old and the battery life is 5 years. The batteries in the internal sensors are not replaceable so it made sense to replace them when the new tyres went on. I simply rang TP and ordered them over the phone. Strangely, the internal sensors do not feature on their website but the external ones do.

    Ironically, I swapped the van a few months later - so I needn’t have bothered!

    I fitted external sensors to our new Knaus and they work just as well and it’s easy to change the batteries.

  • Rufs
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    edited October 2019 #18

    Ah so! , caravan is 2008 so wheels perhaps earlier, still cannot understand why Swindon caravans had so many in stock and trained fitters, guess there are still a lot of old caravans out there

  • EmilysDad
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    edited October 2019 #19

    Tyron IMHO are just very good at selling the fear factor. Wheels without a J rim might have been mentioned in the Dooms Day Book but you'd be very lucky to still find one. Have a look at one of your car or caravan wheels next time you have a puncture fixed or replace a tyre, the J profile is the bit where the tyre bead sits and will keep the tyre in place on the rim when hard cornering (low profile tyres also help) Pre J profile rims, there was nothing to prevent the tyre moving side ways into the wheel well under hard corning and when the bead reached the well, the tyre suddenly deflated ...... hence J profiles being adopted. On a pressed steel wheel, you can generally see the J profile with the tyre in place.

  • Rufs
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    edited October 2019 #20

    dont want to drag this out but interestingly i googled "are Tyron bands worth it" and up came this CT post from 2012 continued into 2016 

    "Tyron Bands Are You Aware of the Pitfalls"

    you were a major contributor to the post, but as with most posts on CT no overwhelming conclusion for or against was forthcoming, so, I have them and am not about to dispense with them, but have to say after having 2 punctures repaired on wheels with Tyron bands fitted, I have never experienced any difficulty or incurred any extra cost for the fitting and was suggested in the post and my first puncture was on a van where i did not know Tyron bands were fitted nor did i have the special tool, fitter used a long screw driver, no problems, as for Tyron bands in Europe I think Valda summed it up briliantly with her note on first hand experience, hope you dont mind me using this Valda.

    "It's not true to say that no tyre fitters abroad will tackle them. We have booklet of approved Tyron band workshops in Europe, which was given to us when we had them fitted, and this remains with us in the car whenever we travel in Europe. If anyone has Tyron bands, travels in Europe, and doesn't have this information then get in touch with Tyron and ask for one. But apart from that, we found a tyre dealership near Soissons who had no problems, even though they weren't on the list. As long as you have the tool then it's not a long job, or an expensive one, to remove the tyres."

    isnt google wonderful laughing

  • Alun2012
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    edited October 2019 #21

    Suggest you go on the Michelin Website, find their Technical Helpline number and telephone them. I recently replaced the tyres on my tow car and received excellent advice from Michelin. They also advised me of promotions they have with smaller independent tyre depots; as a result I got a £50 cash-back per pair.