All New SsangYong Karando

bobimel
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edited October 2019 in Towcars & Towing #1

Just been to see the all new Karando, very impressed. Max tow weight 2000 Kg, towbar max 105. Was thinkg about the Pioneer 4wd auto. The thing is it is a 1600cc. The sales guys says no worries towing my outfit which is about 1450. Has anybody got any first hand experience towing with the new Karando. 

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  • EmilysDad
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    edited October 2019 #2

    Sales man would say that ..... wouldn't he 🙄

    I'd want more cubic capacity to tow a ton & a half

  • flatcoat
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    edited October 2019 #3

    Given it has only been on sale about 3 weeks i think you are being a bit optimistic.... the salesman might be all talk but the engine needs torque..... as for engine cubes i too would prefer more however if it works, why not? I personally would go for it given my first tug was a 2.0tdi with 140 horses, my second a 2.7 with 175 and my current 2.0tdi with 180.... so engine capacity isnt everything if there are enough horses galloping away.

  • flatcoat
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    edited October 2019 #4

    There is one caveat, if you are considering upgrading your van i might review, why not go for a used new shape Rexton at similar money? I will admit i like the look of the new Korando but no good for our 1800kg van. I have heard the UK importers lobbied very hard for Ssang Yong to retain the 2.0L diesel as an option. 

  • lornalou1
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    edited October 2019 #5

    Anything will pull anything on the flat, It's when you hit an incline where the problems start. Salesman not telling lies but not telling the hole truth, he probably doen't even know what size engine is fitted. surprised 

  • bobimel
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    edited October 2019 #6

    Agree with comments, well most of them.  MollysMummy CC is not everyting. We need horses and the Korando has 136.

     

  • Oneputt
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    edited October 2019 #7

    If your worried on the torque, BHP just get it remapped

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited October 2019 #8

    I'm with MM and LL and I fear 136 is not a lot of horses. 😕

    Ignore the salesman. His only concern is to part you from your hard earned.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited October 2019 #9

    I agree, cubic capacity isn't every thing, but as they say across the Pond ... there's no substitute for cubes! The bigger the better & I'd want more that 1600cc when towing a ton & a half of caravan.

    (I usually stick to the rule of more cylinders than doors .... but that's another debate 😉 )

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2019 #10

    136hp is fine for me with 1500kg on the hook. I have done a restart on 1 in 4.5 and so it works for me. 

  • EmilysDad
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    edited October 2019 #11

    How did you know it was a 1 in 4.5? Those gradient signs must be very very rare .... 😉

  • flatcoat
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    edited October 2019 #12

    Nose weight limits have absolutely nothing to do with engine size and drive train - it has everything to do with the structural integrity of the cars platform, or chassis to most people. If 10kg weight difference over the rear of a car had such an impact on the handling then how do you load up the boot? Do you weigh your rear seat passengers before every journey? Some car and caravan combos just do not work, others do. Maybe you are unlucky but my guess is the problem lies somewhere other than the low nose weight. 

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2019 #13

    very rare perhaps. However that is what the sign said near Buxton site ...... the wrong way. Short curve up, long climb and short curve down. Straight road, nowt behind, good visibility and no better place to run a test as I could always roll back

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited October 2019 #14

    Not for me, Easy. Even with only 1500kg on the back I’d want far closer to 200 bhp. 

    1 : 4.5 - sheesh!

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2019 #15

    Personally I think that a lot depends on gear ratios being right for towing  TW. 

  • flatcoat
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    edited October 2019 #16

    My post above was intended for another thread, have absolutely no idea how it also ended up here..... 🤔

  • Oneputt
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    edited October 2019 #17

    As I say get the car remapped.  My CRV ended up with +37 BHP and +61 NM

     

  • bobimel
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    edited October 2019 #18

    Boom, gone and got a VW Tiguan 2.0TDI DSG. Some interesting comments. Remap, no, not with the garuantee maybe when it is finished.

     

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2019 #19

    1 : 4.5 - sheesh! What with your closer to 200 BHP? I chose not to select auto 4 wheel drive as I reckoned that a bit of front tyre slip was helpful wink

    With me and car and towbar car weighs 1725kg. OH and extra kit lets say 1900kg top. Add 1500kg of caravan and 3.4 tonne train weight. 40 BHP per tonne - works fine smile

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited October 2019 #20

    Good for you, Easy.👍🏻

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2019 #21

    I reckon that our 20 year old 1000cc Yaris would burn the X-Trail off from the lights .... maybe to 25mph with the gear ratios in ist and 2nd. Then it would obviously be left behind when the X-Trail reached third gear. The ratios are useless for quick solo take offs but great for towing.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited October 2019 #22

    would 'auto 4 wheel drive' not select itself automatically ..... 🙄

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2019 #23

    Indeed it would MM, if selected, I was still in front wheel only. If front wheels were slipping rear would take over in auto 4 wheel. It has been brilliant on icy, glassy roads that were unsafe to walk on. In the described event I was happy for some front wheel spin to increase take off torque, was I wrong? 

  • catherinef
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    edited October 2019 #24

    I've driven a new Korando but I'm still awaiting the reviews of one towing.  I drove an Ultimate version and overall it was very good but the steering took some getting used to.  Apparently there is also an issue (that needs a tech fix) with the mpg display in that it won't display the true MPG just a maximum of 30.  

  • DS3
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    edited October 2019 #25

    Just buy the new Rexton and be done with mucking about. Or buy a 2017 Rexton W with a 3500Kg tow limit and 128Kg nose weight. 4x4, low ratio gearbox ETC. We've done 53,000 miles in two years without a single problem, except an outside temperature sensor, that was probably my fault for driving through a river.