Tyre Pressures

Colin Dav
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edited August 2019 in Towcars & Towing #1

Hi everybody. New to caravanning here. Just a basic question really. My Mk2 S-Max has normal everyday running tyre pressures of 35 psi all round.

When towing the indiscated  tyre pressure should be 41 psi front and 45 psi rear.  I plan to do a number of long weekend trips with the van.

The question is, How does everybody manage tyre pressures, Do you pump thgem up and then klet them back down when you reach your chosen site.

Does anybody have their own tyre inflator and if so can anyone recommend a good accurate reliable one.

Thanks all

Colin

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  • Tinwheeler
    Tinwheeler Forum Participant Posts: 23,138 ✭✭✭
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    edited August 2019 #2

    Nah, we used to leave them at the higher pressure for the duration of the stay and I don’t ever recall seeing anyone on site inflating/deflating their tyres. Tbh, the difference in the pressures isn’t that great and tyre pressures will fluctuate naturally depending on temperature.

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited August 2019 #3

    Unless you will be driving hundreds of miles off site I would leave them as they were and readjust when you get home. 

    David

  • JVB66
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    edited August 2019 #4

    Adjust tyre pressures?innocent

  • EasyT
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    edited August 2019 #5

    I don't but then our tow car is used predominately for caravan holidays through the year and so always runs at towing pressure. 

  • EmilysDad
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    edited August 2019 #6

    I'd not drive solo with higher tyre pressures .... your car will be all over the place. I leave tyre pressures at the lower pressures for towing, after all you should only be adding 75 to 100kg (ish) to the back of the car.

  • EasyT
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    edited August 2019 #7

    After 14 years with present vehicle no handling problems; about 10% pressure increase

  • EmilysDad
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    edited August 2019 #8

    It was most noticeable to me with my Omega. IIRC 'normal' tyre pressures were 32 front 32 rear or increase to 30 something front 45rear. I made the error in leaving them at the higher pressures leaving Nunnykirk to the local town (can't remember off hand) along fast B roads .... the car was all over the place as it bounced down the road. Though now in different types of cars I now leave tyres at the normal lower pressures when towing too with no ill effects.

  • EasyT
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    edited August 2019 #9

    Quite a large % increase on your car rears. Mine up from 32 to 35 so very different scenario. Front 28 to 31. Car always loaded for holiday as well.

  • richardandros
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    edited September 2019 #10

    I am quite fastidious about the tyre pressures on my Touareg. Unladen they're at 33psi all round, but full load is 44(rear) and 36 (front) which is quite a difference. 

    Because we tend to stay on site for 7 - 14 days at a time, I always deflate the tyres to their 'normal' pressure when we arrive and re-inflate to the towing pressure before we leave. Over-inflated tyres will not only increase wear in the centre of the tyre but also reduce grip, and increase stopping distance.  Similarly towing with under-inflated tyres will put additional stress on the side walls.

  • EasyT
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    edited September 2019 #11

    We move every 5 nights but if there was such a variance as some I would have to reconsider my actions

  • cyberyacht
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    edited September 2019 #12

    I only ever lowered the pressures once which was when staying on the same site for a fortnight. Otherwise I left them as is and drove accordingly.

  • Rufs
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    edited September 2019 #13

    My Sorento runs at 33psi all day long towing or not laughing

  • richardandros
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    edited September 2019 #14

    With regard to tyre inflators, I use the one that came with my car.  The analogue gauge on it, isn't particularly accurate, so I bought a digital gauge from Halfords for about £15.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited September 2019 #15
  • Colin Dav
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    edited September 2019 #16

    Thanks everybody. it seems that reaction is mixed. some do, some don't. 

     

  • lornalou1
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    edited September 2019 #17

    Leave it half way between the two. smile

  • redface
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    edited September 2019 #18

    If you have a local Sainsburys petrol station it is easy to adjust tyre pressures for free.

    This surely leads to greater safety on the road and indeed comfort for the front seat passenger ?

  • lornalou1
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    edited September 2019 #19

    good idea Redface as I have noticed there's one right next to every site.

  • tombo
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    edited September 2019 #20

    Hi Colin

    Our tow car pressures are unaltered at the front but it's recommended that the rears are upped by 4psi for full loading.

    I keep a Race Ex tyre gauge RX0014 which was recommended in Auto Express in the boot plus a very old pen type gauge, along with a stirrup type pump from Halfords.

    I used to work for Michelin and was lucky enough to have my pen type gauge checked against a reference gauge and was told it was 1 psi out. I've tried the other gauge against it and they're both the same.

    I've read some of the gauges at points where you can check your tyres can be wildly out.  The one on my pump is.

    I do reduce the rears to solo running if we use it whilst away.

    It only takes a few minutes to alter the pressures anyway.

    Unfortunately a few people think the tyres a black finishing touch to their wheels and it's well worth remembering yours and your passengers lives may depend on the quality and correct inflation of the tyres.  They do  recommend the pressures for a reason.

     

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited September 2019 #21

    "Unfortunately a few people think the tyres a black finishing touch to their wheels and it's well worth remembering yours and your passengers lives may depend on the quality and correct inflation of the tyres. They do recommend the pressures for a reason"

    With respect, Tombo, I think most folk are sensible and take a common sense approach. They realise 4psi is minimal and pressures will fluctuate due to temperature. 

  • EmilysDad
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    edited September 2019 #22

    But IMHO leaving tyres at the higher pressure while solo is anything but a common sense approach where the difference is often way more than 4psi

  • EasyT
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    edited September 2019 #23

    No idea how often the required pressure increase is 'way more than 3psi'

  • lornalou1
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    edited September 2019 #24

    surely the tyre pressures are set by the manufacturer and using the pacific rubber that they leave the factory with, and with that thought does everyone on this forum still use the original make as what the manufacturer fit when new. If a 35psi pressure on say a £200 tyre responds the same as a 35psi pressure on a £50 tyre then why are we all not fitting the cheaper tyre. So shouldn't we all be ringing the relevant tyre manufacturer to ask them what the pressure difference should be when towing a caravan and not taking the pressures from the vehicle maker. undecided

  • EmilysDad
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    edited September 2019 #25

    Size of tyre, weight of vehicle, max speed of vehicle determines the tyre pressure .... not the make. I'd expect a £200 tyre to keep the car on the road in both the dry & rain .... a £50 of the same size & speed rating I'd expect to put me in the nearest ditch!

  • lornalou1
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    edited September 2019 #26

    So it will be nothing to do with the way your driving MM. This is about pressures when towing and adjusting when required. So, some on here say they adjust every time between solo and towing. My tank takes 93 litres and 30 litres of adblue that's 123kg extra when full. Does that mean I should add air into my tyres as if I was towing I would only be putting 100kg max onto the back end as that's the max for the Alko hitch. Probably a stupid statement I know but it makes you think

  • EmilysDad
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    edited September 2019 #27

    Your tank is the same size as mine ..... £108 to fill it the other evening .... no idea what size the Adblue tank is 🤔 I don't add air when I fill up likewise I don't add air when I stick the caravan on the back as the weight you suggest (it'll be a bit less as a litre of diseasal is only 832g 😉) as it's not much different to sitting a big bloke on the back seat.

    The way I drive with the correct air pressures is well within the capabilities of the car, if the tyres were over inflated then I'd have to slow down otherwise I'd end up with Boris in a ditch. wink

  • cyberyacht
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    edited September 2019 #28

    Tyre pressures are usually specified for light/full load. Irrespective of whether one is towing, if you have two fat ladies and a boot full of cooking utensils then your pressures should be appropriately higher.

  • lornalou1
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    edited September 2019 #29

    Thats the point, if you don't fill the car up when towing and van is at it's legal limit then no need to put air in as not fully loaded. Some think because you are towing you need to put air in and that is not always the case.

    You should have added the hairy bikers as an alternative to the fat ladies as some could say your sexist cyberyacht. sealed

  • derekcyril
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    edited September 2019 #30

    All good points , i use a michelin tyre inflator as recommended for land rovers . Very reliable 6 years old , its 2 psi out ,always check with pen gauge . Front tyres should be ok its just rears for 2 hairy bikers and 2 fat ladies !!

  • cyberyacht
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    edited September 2019 #31

    I wonder what pressures they had in their motorbike?