Twiñ axle v single axle

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  • EmilysDad
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    edited August 2019 #62

    There's always one ...... innocent Obviously I was talking where you could reverse the car to the caravan's hitch

  • Lutz
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    edited August 2019 #63

    Of course the effort needed to turn a twin is going to be higher than for an equivalent single, but it's the towcar that has to match that effort and it can do that easily with bags of power to spare to overcome the greater resistance, so the driver is not going to notice any difference.

    I still maintain that it's only the length of a caravan that makes it any easier, (or more difficult), for the driver to reverse because the response of a long trailer to movements at the steering wheel is so much slower than that of a short one.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited August 2019 #64

    I still maintain that you're wrong ..... kiss

  • JVB66
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    edited August 2019 #65

    We have a co.op in our parade of shops that is serviced by articulated lorries several times a day, and it is very noticeable that it always seems to take longer for the drivers to reverse and line up a single axle trailer than when two axles trailers are in use and the single axletrailers are shorter

  • Lutz
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    edited August 2019 #66

    I have tried to explain my way of thinking, but I still can't find a plausible explanation for your reasoning.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited August 2019 #67

    likewise ......

  • Lutz
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    edited August 2019 #68

    I‘m sure you‘d be convinced upon finding that a twin axle horsebox is a lot more difficult to reverse than a long single axle caravan.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited August 2019 #69

    I have actually reversed a twin axle horse box & found it far easier to reverse than large single axle caravan I had at the time. 🙄 (for all the reasons given above)

  • Navigateur
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    edited August 2019 #70

    problem is fitting the Alco wheel plate to the second wheel. You either have to jack a wheel up to rotate it to align with the lock or buy a device such as lock n level.

    Not so!  I keep posting how to do it easily with cost of a few pence, so it should be easy to find.

  • Wellys and Mac
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    edited August 2019 #71

    I drive lorry's for a living, Artics.

     

    Single axle trailers are more twitchy to reverse, they get away from you more readily, the reason is they have very little rolling resistance.

    Twin or tri axled trailer being reversed have high resistance as the tyres move sideways along the ground, giving that resistance which allows greater control, I suppose a kind of damping effect to inputs.

    I'm imagining your arguement (Lutz) is this damping is a hindrance, where as in practice it isnt.

     

     

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    edited August 2019 #72
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  • Lutz
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    edited August 2019 #73

    I'm not going to get involved in the discussion regarding reversing any more. Suffice to say I want to know in which direction the caravan is going immediately as I reverse, without any time delay, so that I can react just as quickly. I find that makes it so much easier for me.

    However, returning to the main issue of the discussion, the argument about space inside of a twin seldom applies really now that single axle caravans of around 8m length are quite common. In fact, no Continental manufacturer offers a twin under 1900kg, even most of their 2000kg caravans are single axle models. There must be a good reason for this trend.

  • ocsid
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    edited August 2019 #74

    "In fact, no Continental manufacturer offers a twin under 1900kg, even most of their 2000kg caravans are single axle models. There must be a good reason for this trend."

    Might this be because with a single there is less "real estate" loss and compromises needed to accommodate the wheel arch intrusion?

  • Lutz
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    edited August 2019 #75

    Possibly, but I think the main reason is weight and cost reduction. A second axle is bound to increase unladen weight compared with a single axle model of equivalent size and cost more, too.