CoPilot tablet satnav

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  • peedee
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    edited April 2018 #32

    Co-Pilot caravan is a third of the price of the truck version, I would have though there has to be a significant reduction in functionality somewhere between the two to enable the large price reduction for the caravan version and it cannot all be about carrying hazardous materials. (see >this table<)I have certainly noticed the caravan turn displays are not so detailed as the truck version, in fact they are often not shown but running the two side by side, the routes presented so far and the directions given have been identical.

    I have the route preferences set at "quickest" on the caravan version and "practical" on the truck version with both set to avoid local and toll roads, the latter if possible.

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  • peedee
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    edited April 2018 #34

    I still carry maps AD but hardly ever use them on a journey, route planning is done at home and daily journeys set up and loaded before I leave using multiple sources of information, maps included. If driving through mountainous areas I will also consult the Club's guide to mountain passes. It mostly works out without changes but I am quite happy to be flexible while going from A to B and very occasionally I will do a tour off the cuff with no planning whatsoever and just go with the flow. I certainly would not be without a sat nav that matched the vehicle I am driving.

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  • peedee
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    edited May 2018 #36

    I have just come back from using the  caravan version of Co-pilot on a Samsung 8 inch tablet for a return trip to Croatia  of 2600 miles and when set up for my motorhome dimensions, quickest route and to avoid tolls the only trouble I had with it was it failed to zoom to the route on occasions but the instructions were still good. My option is at £34.99, it is very good value and worth buying.

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  • dmiller555
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    edited May 2018 #37

    I use the Co-Pilot caravan version on an iPad and have it set-up as Peedee above.

    I always check the final approach route against the site's published directions and drag the Co-Pilot route to the suggested approach route if it varies. 

  • peedee
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    edited June 2019 #38

    Thought it worth updating this thread.

    The producers of Co-Pilot, ALK Technologies, have been re-organised and Co-Pilot is now marketed and sold by Trimble Maps. This has altered the way Co-Pilot is sold and appears to have resulted in more commonality across what is just >three remaining applications< Co-Pilot Car, Caravan and Truck. You can no longer buy any of these Apps outright. They are now only available on subscription but this is inclusive of traffic reports. Google Play is still not clear on pricing but I suspect you get a free download and trial and then after a couple of weeks get asked for payment?  My Co-Pilot Caravan, purchased outright prior to the changes, is still running fine with all the European maps. My Truck version, also purchase outright before the changes, is also still running. They have been updated to the latest versions and there seems to now be no difference in the user interfaces and settings. Notably the ability to set road preferences and speeds has been discontinued. The routing algorithm, which I assume is different in each application, is supposed to now take care of these factors. So far this appears to be the case. A more obvious difference is in the POIs, the Caravan version having site POIs. However you can still load your own which is useful to ensure these are kept up to date, e.g. in the case of CLs.

    I have not been asked to pay subscriptions, whether I will ultimately get a request to pay these or whether I can still update maps remains to be seen. The subscription for the Truck version is now nearly £100 per annum, I think that is a bit steep, especially as it could be purchased outright for this price before the changes. I remain undecided as to whether this new marketing idea is a good thing or not, neither of my tablets have access to a mobile network so the inclusion of "traffic" in a subscription is of little use to me unless I connect a tablet to my phone used as a hot spot.

    The point of the update is to highlight that much of what has been said up thread is now probably incorrect. They still look good Apps and some may prefer a subscription based purchase to finding a larger lump sum for a sat nav. It does seem to be the way many Apps are going.

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  • cyberyacht
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    edited June 2019 #39

    I was thinking about getting the Co-Pilot app but a £100pa subscription has crystallised the decision.

  • dmiller555
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    edited June 2019 #40

    The caravan/motorhome version is £26 per year, I think the higher subscription is for the commercial truck version.

    I now use the latest version of my CoPilot on my mobile phone and find it works just as well as the earlier version did on a mini-iPad.

     

  • peedee
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    edited June 2019 #41

    CY, its hard to spot the difference between the three versions available. The Caravan version should meet your requirements and as DM says the subscription is £26p.a. for this verson inclusive of world maps and "traffic"

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  • Suziebee
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    edited June 2019 #42

    As a newbie to motorhoming and travelling from Merseyside to Dorset with a couple of stops on both outward and home bound journeys I downloaded the app free for 14 days using it on my iPhone. I have used a Garmin sat nav in the past and also use the one in my car and I must say even the free version (for 14 days) has been excellent and I will definitely buy the full version which I think is £39.99 , much cheaper then buying a sat nav. I entered all the dimensions of our  motorhome and it then calculates the best routes. Hope this helps.

  • JamesTrueman
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    edited July 2019 #43

    Sadly, the new company selling CoPilot no longer sell the perpetual version of the CoPilot caravan app. It is now bundled with CoPilot GPS and requires an annual fee (£25.99). Seems a lot for an repeat annual subscription - and less attractive as an accumulative cost?  

  • peedee
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    edited July 2019 #44

    Sad I know, I was fortunate in that I purchased the Apps outright before the latest change. Have a look at Sygic it is recommended by some.

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  • peedee
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    edited July 2019 #45

    10 days ago I had to take a diversion,  police closed the main road. I was by chance running both the caravan version and the truck version to my destination.  The truck version gave me the better alternative route, the Caravan version kept trying to send me on narrow country roads back to the closed main road. I had both versions set to my vans size and weight.

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  • lornalou1
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    edited July 2019 #46

    I paid £49 for co-pilot caravan 18 months ago and not been asked for any more.

  • IanTG
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    edited July 2019 #47

    Mac, From memory, I think the standard CoPilot app is free, but if you wish to upgrade to the caravan/motor home version (to allow tailoring for vehicle size etc) its £25.99 for a year subscription.

    there are different apps to run on android or Apple tablets.

    an SD Card is a slot-in memory card, used to avoid clogging up the tablet/phone memory. Of course, you can only use a SD Card if the device has a slot in which to insert it. Not all devices do.

    Ive only ever used CoPilot when using a (4G) phone signal. So cannot comment if it works ok offline. In my experience, it doesn’t necessarily reroute to avoid questionable routes, but warns of likely restrictions, ie “your route includes unmade up roads at.....”. Maybe it would avoid absolute no-no’s (eg bridge too low) but I’ve never experienced it.

  • peedee
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    edited July 2019 #48

    It works fine off line, you only need to be on line if you want traffic to influence your route.

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  • peedee
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    edited July 2019 #49

    Anyone else had an email from Co-Pilot about changes to the App at the next update?

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  • lornalou1
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    edited July 2019 #50

    No, what did it say. Just got an update notification on the app store so did that. Probably for new roads etc.

  • peedee
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    edited July 2019 #51

    LL, it is dated 12th July and says it is "retiring" (strange word to use) my truck version at the next update and the app will no longer receive app and map updates after retiring.

    It goes on to say:

    What this means to you
    We’re upgrading your truck navigation experience! You will soon be able to move to our most popular CoPilot GPS app and all your truck features, purchases and settings will be restored. Here’s a summary of how these changes may affect you:

    Your existing Truck Navigation and Traffic subscription and settings will be restored in the new app. You won’t need to pay for your existing features again
    You will be able to purchase or renew a Truck Navigation and Traffic subscription at anytime in the new CoPilot GPS app, just go to Main Menu > Store
    Enjoy ongoing app and map updates in the new CoPilot GPS app
    We will keep you updated with changes to your CoPilot truck navigation in the coming weeks.

    While it is saying all my current settings will be restored I think it is implying I will in future have to pay a subscription for the truck data. because the next update is going to downgrade my truck app to the new CoPilots GPS app. Until I get further information I do not intend to go on line for the next update and will keep running on the old truck version.

    peedee.