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mickysf
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edited July 2019 in Caravan & Motorhome Chat #1

Is the old habit of that traditional morning read all but dead? Has the next day's fish and chip wrapping now finally been confined to the bin? (I think H&S killed that off really)

However according to an article I was reading less and less papers are being sold these days with many of us getting our papers electronically. Also, the age group who like that hard copy paper versions are now significantly reducing in number. According to the article for many shops the humble newspaper has now become pretty much a loss leader.

Is this why It seems that less and less sites are now 'doing' papers?  I was told by one site owner that this was due to reduced orders and that the local newsagents, who were also experiencing much reduced footfall through their doors had decided not to deliver them to sites, as this had reduced their opportunity for the 'upselling' of  Worthers Originals, Polos and Extra Strong Mints. Afterall, you can't get them electronically can you!

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  • SteveL
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    edited July 2019 #2

    I have been getting an electronic one for years. In the early days, when away, there were often problems downloading due to internet speeds. However, with the advent of widespread 4G and fibre to the cabinet broadband, there is rarely a problem. Even the CC WiFi is normally capable first thing in the morning. Even when sites did papers, I rarely bothered, as in most cases you had to wait until 9:00 and I like to read it over breakfast. 

    I find the digital version much more versatile than the paper version, and depending on the text size I select, I can read it with or without specs. It's not so good at putting down under where your painting though.😂 Although we get the odd complimentary one from Waitrose which gradually build up.😀

  • JollyKernow
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    edited July 2019 #3

    Morning

    I reckon this will be the last year of morning papers on this site. The orders go down year on year and with the high delivery charge from the newsagent ever climbing it just won't be worth it. 

    JK

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  • allanandjean
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    edited July 2019 #5

    I am indifferent to the availability of the daily paper however my wife is not and only last week when someone mentioned they had recently been to Marseille my first thought was of searching the town for a Daily Mail for my wife!

    I have been using the Mail Plus for a couple of years and I like the fact that I am looking at the news for that day and not a day behind as most papers are when abroad.but for my wife it has to be the hard copy wherever possible.

    If I could get them to drop the crossword though that would solve it as that's her main reason for getting the paper.

  • Oneputt
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    edited July 2019 #6

    If on site in the UK and they do a newspaper delivery then I always try to get a local paper.  No interest in the news at large as my electronic devices keep me updated.

  • brue
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    edited July 2019 #7

    I tend to buy a paper on a daily basis only if on holiday so I'm not helping the industry much. I prefer paper print to screen reading. My one regular paper purchase at present is the Saturday i. I know the industry as a whole has moved on line and papers can take up quite a bit of retail space etc. I believe it's a generational thing and I'm not sure whether certain age groups read any type of newspaper at all? Getting their "news" via social media sites etc.

    As for sites which have newspapers, I'm always glad if they do and don't mind paying the extra delivery fee. smile

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited July 2019 #8

    It seems with many sites it is the reliability of the deliveries that eventually stop sites offering the service. Was talking to a warden about it the other day and they said that the people making the deliveries to the site would often not bother if the number ordered didn't meet what they considered a reasonable number. In such circumstances it becomes almost impossible to offer the service. If I am going to read a newspaper I prefer to have it in my hand in paper form rather than online. I find trying to concentrate on close text on a small screen very tiring to my eyes. Years ago we used to buy a paper every day but since the advent of rolling 24 hour news the number of newspapers we actually buy has tumbled. It's usually a weekend treat or when I get a free Guardian in Waitrose once a week.

    David

     

  • Bakers2
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    edited July 2019 #9

    My mum loves her daily paper but living in the country, not the sticks! Main road through the village which carries the Stansted express buses, so not off the beaten track! Village shop disappeared years ago, although they never did papers but there was a daily delivery from someone in the village who collected the papers and delivered. She used to get them delivered from the next village, that stopped, so the small town 5 miles away delivered. That ceased, I presume cos they couldn't get driver?? For a few years they were delivered from Sudbury in Suffolk but the guy who delivered them got ill.  Was a while without but now has delivery well before 6am and pays to somewhere in Herefordshire or Hertfordshire,  can't remember now but think it the former 😲. The nearby village of Pleshey has a delivery and advertises in their parish magazine but don't cover mum's village 2 miles away. Pleshey is her home village and where she goes to church and dad's buried. I expect finding delivery folks is hard, we have lads/lasses on bikes delivering but I have no idea how old they need to be these days.  Is it still 14? I know lots won't employ them for other jobs until after they've done their GCSE'S. 

    Funny old set up, but at least she gets a paper. Does  the Crossword and sudko daily reckons it keeps the grey cells ticking over.  At almost 89 I think she has a point!

    We don't have paper these days, miss the Crossword but can live without it. A local paper when away is a great idea, we don't do it regularly though.

  • Bakers2
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    edited July 2019 #10

    I find the digital version much more versatile than the paper version, and depending on the text size I select, I can read it with or without specs. It's not so good at putting down under where your painting though.😂 Although we get the odd complimentary one from Waitrose which gradually build up.😀

    😂

  • brue
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    edited July 2019 #11

     

    Our village shop doesn't stock papers because no-one wants to get up early enough to see them in and sort them. If we get someone new to the village who rises at dawn even through the ice and cold of winter we might get lucky! I can't persuade OH to do it even though he says he never sleeps...wink

    I don't know of many other small general shops that don't stock papers, but ours is one of them and as it's now run by volunteers we're just lucky to have a shop at all.

    Never had a complimentary one from W as I'm not a card carrying member and it's too far to go to get one! Our paper recycling goes out every week so if I forget to keep back the Saturday paper that's it, nothing left lying around to wrap anything in.  

    However, as a run off, this could be a great help to all potential paper hoarders I believe, who used to stockpile everything, just in case. Bring on the "shed" recycling boxes...laughing

     

  • Surfer
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    edited July 2019 #12

    We no longer bother with newspapers as it seems they prefer lying sensational headlines and like to twist the facts to suit the reporters agenda!

  • Cornersteady
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    edited July 2019 #13

    You may have a point. The only time I read a newspaper is when travelling on a long train, or at breakfast in a hotel on my own and both times it is for something to do rather than the paper itself.

    For news I just use the BBC website.

    Post edit, actually I usually by a local paper when staying away in the caravan, they are usually more interesting than nationals

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited July 2019 #14

    We used to read the Independent from cover to cover, then took Guardian, but fell out with that a few years ago. We switched to taking only Saturday Yorkshire Post a couple of years ago, but found we just didn’t read all that either, mind we shall possibly still get a couple a month in Winter as we use it for lighting stove😂

    Not keen at all on TV BBC news, or ITV. We watch Channel Four news, hour long, some good in-depth reports, and their journalists and presenters don’t half get stuck in to politicians etc.....

    BBC News website seems full of back dated articles that seem to reappear every few months. 

  • Cornersteady
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    edited July 2019 #15

    ... that seem to reappear every few months.

    just like CT? smile

    actually to be fair, CT does it every few years

  • young thomas
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    edited July 2019 #16

    " It's usually a weekend treat or when I get a free Guardian in Waitrose once a week."

    presumably no one ever pays for these.... undecided

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited July 2019 #17

    There are certain printed newspapers that hint at a sense of grubby voyeurism, however I personally didn’t have the Guardian in this category............😂 Most consist of a three or four letter name so as not to overtax their readers........

  • mickysf
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    edited July 2019 #18

    On one site we went to their 'shop' contained only a few caravanning necessities and Calor gas. The explanation given was it wouldn't have been fair to the locals and the village shop to compete with their livelihood. Makes community spirited sence to support them I reckon!

  • ABM
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    edited July 2019 #19

    Electronic stuff is rubbish !

    Have you ever tried having a snooze on your recliner with an iPad on your face ?? surprised

  • Wherenext
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    edited July 2019 #20

    Can't do without my i. Guess I'm just old fashioned.

    Have to have it every day we're in the UK ( except Sunday). Find it a quite impartial newspaper. rare of Hens teeth these days. Plus I love Cryptic Crosswords and theirs is a good one with a few different Setters (Moulesy will like that one) to keep you on your toes. I can't be doing with digital crosswords. 

    Met a fellow newspaper buyer in the village shop today. He was buying The Daily Mirror. I asked him if they still had Andy Capp in it. Yes he replied and showed me. Haven't seen that cartoon for ages. My father always bought that paper. Mrs WN and I went to the theatre in Manchester many moons ago to see a play about Andy Capp. Think Tom Courtenay played him. Can't remember who played Flo though. Ah, memories eh?

  • Cornersteady
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    edited July 2019 #21

    There was one site that had a similar situation. The wardens said it was an agreement that they could only sell caravan related stuff that the local shops didn't sell. This was in Melrose and as the local shops were only literally few minutes walk away I could see the point.

  • peedee
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    edited July 2019 #22

    Haven't read a news paper or the electronic version in years. Always rely on TV news or the BBC website for the news. You can be much more selective as to what you read using the latter source and it takes much less time. I also get breaking news on my phone.

    peedee

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited July 2019 #23

    If I miss anything about printed papers it’s the cartoons. Dad usually read Daily Express, so I grew up with Rupert Bear and The Perishers. Then of course there was Giles, I have quite a collection of Giles Annuals. Steve Bell of the Guardian is a superb political cartoonist.

  • mickysf
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    edited July 2019 #24

    Anyone remember Oor Wullie? Saw him in Edinbrough a few weeks ago.  You could put him on your bucket list.😉

    "I nivver get ony fun roond here!"😜

  • Cornersteady
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    edited July 2019 #25

    following on from this:

    The world's largest education publisher has taken the first step towards phasing out print books by making all its learning resources "digital first".

    Pearson said students would only be able to rent physical textbooks from now on, and they would be updated much less frequently

    The British firm hopes the move will make more students buy its e-textbooks which are updated continually.

    (A lot of schools textbooks are from Pearson's)

  • mickysf
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    edited July 2019 #26

    That's interesting, maybe the next generations are already being facilitated by us in the way that ever changing knowledge is passed on! 

    Oh, the mind boggles!wink

  • cyberyacht
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    edited July 2019 #27

    I get a Times on Saturday, like others for the TV schedules. Given the time constraints, it usually takes me a few days to read all the various sections.

  • peedee
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    edited July 2019 #28

    I get the the TV schedules from the Radio Times on line and also the TV program guide.

    peedee

  • Goldie146
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    edited July 2019 #29

    We get The Sunday Times (free with my Booths card when I shop - always on Sunday). It usually lasts all week and in winter is used to light the fire.

    I read The Guardian online - it’s free, no subscription .

    And when we’re away my husband like to get a paper if we pass a newsagent. He’s just driven off from New England Bay to Drummore three miles away. Too wet to do anything else!

  • Watersideranger
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    We must be a right odd balls.  We get the Yorkshire Post, (purchased with vouchers), delivered daily, the Radio Times (because my grandma had it) and the Peoples Friend ( not a skirt above the knee) all delivered by a young lady at 6:15 am before she goes to school. Mrs Grimshaw reads every word and does the cross word. I scan them. Much the same on holiday, take vouchers if in Yorkshire otherwise Daily Mail. Long live, newsagents, paper boys & girls and and the Christmas box.

  • mickysf
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    edited July 2019 #31

    I'd bet that Xmas box goes toward the very latest XBox or iPhone!surprised