Trailer Board Lights Legal or Illegal

KEITHN61
KEITHN61 Forum Participant Posts: 17
edited July 2019 in Towcars & Towing #1

Hi

I have an old caravan that we are about to sell  but are having one last trip in it in the near future , and found there is a fault with the lights ( no indicators , brakes etc) .Rather than go to the expense of having someone looking into this am I ok to drive the caravan with a trailer board  fixed to the back of the Caravan ( I have one from when I had a trailer , and works fine) , hence why I think its the caravan lights and not the car )

Thanks in advance

Keith

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  • EmilysDad
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    edited July 2019 #2

    I can't see any problem with using your trailer board or any reason why it would be illegal. I used a trailer board recently when I towed my dead Smart. 😉

  • Navigateur
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    edited July 2019 #3

    The trailer board would be legal provided it displays the appropriate lights to replicate those required by law on the trailer.

    So if your caravan requires by law a rear fog light, that would need to be included (foggy weather or not!), similarly reversing light. Front and side marker lights will be difficult though, should these be required.

    As you refer to an "old caravan" you could be lucky if it has only simple rear lights. Otherwise it's down to what sort of day the traffic policeman has had so far.

  • twocals
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    edited July 2019 #4

    Someone will put me right,but I think if the trailer is wider than the tow car it requires marker lights front and rear. During the day reflectors are ok but must be lit at night or poor visibility. 

  • twocals
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    edited July 2019 #5

    Sorry navigateur, you beat me to it.

  • KEITHN61
    KEITHN61 Forum Participant Posts: 17
    edited July 2019 #6

    I best just drive it during the day then ( which we were planning to do )

    Many thanks for the replies and just hope if I'm stopped Mr Policeman has had a good day

  • commeyras
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    edited July 2019 #7

    But you are still illegal and  NO INDIATORS!  Are you sure it is not the wiring in the sockets?  If so, it is easy to sort out and could well save you a fine and endorsements.  Hope I am not behind you as you turn without indicating.  Why not repair the lights or use a trailer board ensuring that the correct number plate is shown.  No one here will support you attempting to drive without the correct road lighting on your caravan.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited July 2019 #8

    + 1 to that. 

  • EmilysDad
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    edited July 2019 #9

    Of course he'll have indicators ..... that's why he's planning on using the trailer board! 

  • EmilysDad
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    edited July 2019 #10

    I can't think that even the most picky of coppers would pull you for no rear fog light on a trailer board. My trailer board is minus one and for the few times I plan on using it I'm not fitting one.

  • commeyras
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    edited July 2019 #11

    I would normally not respond but OP has not said  that he would therefore use a trailer board.  He said that he would therefore drive in the day time and hope 'that Mr Policeman has had a good day' - could mean anything.  In my post I said either get lights fixed or use a trailer board!  If he is using a trailer board that's fine.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited July 2019 #12

    I had problems with the lighting on my 2003 Lunar a while back. In the end it was simply a bad connection in a plug/socket right at the back underneath & just required a squirt of switch cleaner and unplugging & plugging in a few times to clean the contacts.

  • KEITHN61
    KEITHN61 Forum Participant Posts: 17
    edited July 2019 #13

    Just to confirm I would never think about towing the van with NO LIGHTs  as that would be irresponsible  hence why I will be using the trailer board , I am jut ensuring it is legal to do this 

    Thanks 

  • EmilysDad
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    edited July 2019 #14

    The day time reference was re front marker lights .....

  • Navigateur
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    edited July 2019 #15

     Just remembered that I got two free front marker lights when I bought a towing cover.  They are the same stick on LED lamps one can buy in the pound shop.  So that's sorted now as well for the OP.

     

     

  • Lutz
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    edited July 2019 #16

    Note that for any lighting to be legal on a motor vehicle or trailer it must carry a type approval (E) mark.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited July 2019 #17

    But some/illegal lighting is better than NO lighting. And is a copper actually allowed to look for a type approval E mark?

  • Navigateur
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    edited July 2019 #18

    The folk in China that knock out the "two for a pound" LED lights will print anything you want on them!

     

     

  • davetommo
    davetommo Forum Participant Posts: 1,430
    edited July 2019 #19

    I have to ask “what traffic policeman” 

  • lagerorwine
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    edited July 2019 #20

    Wouldn't the trailer board need to be as wide as the caravan? Otherwise, the rear corners of the caravan aren't marked?

    Yeah -'what traffic policemen' - but sods law says, they will be there when you don't want them.

  • davetommo
    davetommo Forum Participant Posts: 1,430
    edited July 2019 #21

    They only turn up after an accident then they can close the road for as long as they can get away with it

  • DS3
    DS3 Forum Participant Posts: 108
    edited July 2019 #22

    Hmm! Technically, any lights that are fitted, MUST work. Therefore, if the marker lights are not working, and you get pulled over by VOSA, you may well end up with a caravan you are not allowed to tow any further.

    On the other hand, it is very unlikely that will happen, and using the trailer board is legal to cover the rear lights. You don't legally need a fog light, nor reversing lights, but then again, if they are fitted they should work.

    So, in answer to your question, no, it isn't legal to use the trailer board if your caravan is fitted with marker lights, a fog light and reversing lights that don't work.

    However, it could be argued that as it isn't foggy, or dark, they are not needed anyway. As for a police officer nicking you for it, it isn't going to happen if the main lights and indicators on the trailer board work.

     

  • Lutz
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    edited July 2019 #23

    I'm sorry, but if the caravan was manufactured on or after the 1st April 1980 it must have a type approved rear fog lamp. A reversing lamp is optional, but if fitted it must display an approval mark if the caravan was first used on or after 1st October 1985.

  • compass362
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    edited July 2019 #24

    To be honest carrying a trailer board incase of caravan electrical problems isn't a bad idea.

    If you have room for storage & the cost is relatively low compared to the implications of not having the correct lighting / issues. 

    We only have 7 pin trailer socket on the towcar anyway , but relay on a 13 Pin adapter for caravan connection when towing.