Why no speeding?

richardandros
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edited June 2019 in UK Campsites & Touring #1

I know this is a thorny issue given the number of complaints on here about speeding on site - and I witnessed it many times.

However, we are currently staying at Carnon Downs near Truro - an Affiliated Site.

It is a very large site in terms of acreage and probably three or four times the size of, for example, Broadway but with a similar number of pitches. As a consequence, there are a number of long straight sections of roadway which you would have thought would have encouraged speeding.

There are no speed limit signs around the site and the only speed bumps are around the reception area.

We have been here almost two weeks and I have yet to see anyone exceeding about 5/6 mph on the site roads . Admittedly I haven’t been watching all the time - better things to do - but the absence of speeders is noticeable.

The only difference between this site and the club sites we have been on is that a lot of the roads are loose gravel rather than tarmac and I wonder if that has anything to do with it?

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  • EasyT
    EasyT Forum Participant Posts: 16,194
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    edited June 2019 #2

    The only difference between this site and the club sites we have been on is that a lot of the roads are loose gravel rather than tarmac and I wonder if that has anything to do with it?

    I suspect that it does make a difference. It is however far more difficult for those with mobility issues in my experience.

  • lornalou1
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    edited June 2019 #3

    Agree ET. It's bad enough to push a wheelchair from the tarmac road to the caravan door.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited June 2019 #4

    yes fully agree, no one drives fast over loose stones, not as steady, and also may throw up the odd one to hit car/caravan/MH/person.

    But in my view not as pleasant to walk on or as said above and really not required if people just kept to the limit, and real consequences when they don't.

  • mickysf
    mickysf Forum Participant Posts: 6,474 ✭✭✭
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    edited June 2019 #5

    I think not, I've driven at the recommended speed of 20mph over newly gravelled highways roads and been overtaken by vehicles doing much faster speeds. I suspect you just hit lucky with likeminded considerate folk on site.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited June 2019 #6

    if you don't like to walk on gravel why do you chose hardstandings? 🙄

  • Cornersteady
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    edited June 2019 #7

    An astute point there MM, well while I can just about tolerate the walk from the caravan door to the site roads, I wouldn't like to walk the whole way round the site on it.

    Also the gravel on the pitch is necessary for me to have an enjoyable stay. You prefer walking on wet or muddy/grass when it rains then?

  • EasyT
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    edited June 2019 #8

    Hard standings are generally compact. The tracks that are a greater problem are the round pebble like tracks that do not compact. For many it is not a case of dislike but of difficulty MM

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2019 #9

    Before Black Knowl was remodeled it had a gravel road round the site, and speeding was unusual there,as if they did they normally got a rebuke from others near the road because of debris and dust that was created, but now with tarmac roads people just moan to each other or write about it in reviews

  • huskydog
    huskydog Club Member Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    edited June 2019 #10

    We've been going to Black Knowl since 1995 till they remodelled it (ruined it) and it always had a tarmac road round the site , kids on bikes used it as a race track 

  • eurortraveller
    eurortraveller Club Member Posts: 6,830 ✭✭✭
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    edited June 2019 #11

    The cars probably travel at the same speed on commercial sites as on Club sites - but on commercial sites the visitors don't get as agitated about it as those who stay on Club sites. 

  • Cornersteady
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    edited June 2019 #12

    PS I didn't say I don't like to walk on gravel,  I said not as pleasant.smile 

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2019 #13

    That was the second remodel ,when the club gained the freehold a  couple of years agowink,just shows how long ago it was we first used Black Knowlsurprised

    Ps how did some vent there"fury"about kids on bikes and speeding in 1995wink

  • DaveandVicki
    DaveandVicki Forum Participant Posts: 192
    edited June 2019 #14

    Perhaps the clue could be in the OP:

    However, we are currently staying at Carnon Downs near Truro - an Affiliated Site.

    The Affiliated sites that we have used were not as tolerant towards speeding as club sites appear to be.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited June 2019 #15

    Yep, just what I was going to say. AFs don’t have HQ to answer to, they can just get on with applying the behave or you are off approach.

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2019 #16

    Thats what the owner of Milestones (near Newark ) told us, "a membership card for the cc does not give you access to my site as a right "and I can eject said members if they do not comply

  • DaveandVicki
    DaveandVicki Forum Participant Posts: 192
    edited June 2019 #17

    Milestones is one of the AFs that we have stayed at.

    We were told the same thing in a friendly manner. 

    Same as always say about CLs, their site, their rules. Like it or leave.

  • brue
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    edited June 2019 #18

    Carnon Downs has "rules" about conduct on the site roads, I seem to recall several features that make it less likely that problems might occur. People seemed to respect this approach. 

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited June 2019 #19

    I’ve said before that if the Club got tough on a few who without question are endangering others, and rescinded membership, the message would get out loud and clear. The Wardens need that sort of HQ backup, or they are powerless. Makes the job much more difficult.

    Having said that, I can’t recall seeing much in way of speeding on sites, but then we only go at certain times and to certain sites.

  • brue
    brue Forum Participant Posts: 21,176 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    edited June 2019 #20

    I think you'll find Carnon Downs is more cautious with children, not allowing bikes and scooters etc but offers a very good play area (plus the Devoran cycle route down the road.) The design of the site is quite good, wider driving routes and separate areas.

  • richardandros
    richardandros Club Member Posts: 2,684 ✭✭✭
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    edited June 2019 #21

    But my point was that there are no speed limit signs anywhere on the site and the speed bumps are limited to the area immediately around the reception area. Nor were we given a lecture on arriving about speed or, indeed, about how to pitch up. Just a warm, friendly welcome.

    So - apart from the gravel roads - but only on part of the site, what makes it such a different experience?

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  • mickysf
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    edited June 2019 #23

    Why's that then?

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2019 #24

    They probably do but do not have this type of forum where it is "open season" to post anything?  some think  is negative about this clubwink

  • Freddy55
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    edited June 2019 #25

    It’s a thorny ol’ issue, speeding. I stayed at Troutbeck Head recently. I religiously stuck to 5mph, which is tick-over in 1st. I reckon I was the only one that observed the limit, as none of the vehicles I saw/heard were ticking-over. On one occasion, one fella was clearly doing at least 20mph as he passed by my pitch, which was obviously excessive. Had I  the time to catch his registration I would have reported him. Ok, that incident aside, at no time did I feel that anyone was in danger. Just an observation, I have no axe to grind...

  • Wellys and Mac
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    edited June 2019 #26

    Probably the vehicles were over the 5mph limit!

    We have been to that site, because it's more spacious than most, perhaps it's more difficult to tell the actual speed of a vehicle?

    Also when we were there for a fortnight the atmosphere was more laidback than any club site we have been on, so again a vehicle going say 7mph would hardly raise an eyebrow, whilst certainly on here and perhaps club sites the response is altogether different, rules are rules and all that!

    May explain in 25plus years of spending summer in Cornwall, we have only ever found availability for our dates at Carnon Downs once, a very popular place.

     

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited June 2019 #27

    Last time we were there, it was covered in snow, nothing dared do more than trickle along! 

    We use more private sites and CLs than Club Sites. I don’t think it’s the Club Sites that are the issue. It’s the members. As with other aspects of public life, the vast majority of folks just get on with their day, doing the right thing, trying not to be a nuisance to anyone else. A tiny minority do cause issues, but they are probably the same when at home.

  • JollyKernow
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    edited June 2019 #28

    Hi

    TDA I think your last paragraph is very apt. for this forum toowink

    JK

  • JollyKernow
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    edited June 2019 #29

    20 mph.

    I'll have to ask that warden where he got his tractor tuning kit fromsurprised

    JK

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2019 #31

    Glad to hear you’re enjoying your return to the club and all its benefits, DD.😂😂😂